Will Obama fire McChrystal
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Mermaid

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21,492 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Is Obama getting rattled,, and is this the opportunity for all parties to show who is in charge?


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487048...

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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It really could go either way.

The trouble is that McChrystal has been one of the more effective military leaders in that conflict. So if he goes, all military actions are affected.

But if McChrystal is not fired then Obama shows he is not in charge of his own military.


McChrystal has offered his resignation, I think it will be accepted.

tegwin

1,682 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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If your head of the military stands up and says that there is a problem.... rather than getting him to leave, would it not be in the best interest of the USA to discuss the problems with this man and try and get things so they are "right"..... Rather than simply brushing the "problem" and him under the rug?

joe_90

4,206 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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He should give him a dishonrable discharge for that really.. But he will indeed pussy it. My hopes of Obama were so high...

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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I think he shouldn't. But he will. He's not big enough for the shoes, IMO.

andy_s

19,855 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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McCrystal has to be one of the best military leaders the US has, his work in Iraq was very interesting and played a large part in the final few years to down-tempo the militia. It'd be a great loss for the US but politically it may be expedient to accept his resignation and move on to let someone else clear up the end-game. Shame though, he was an original thinker.

Obama (and Blair/Brown/Dave) need to really cry havoc, let slip the dogs of war and let them decide how best to prossecute the mission, (they'd maybe be a bit more reluctant to pull the trigger if so apart from anything else). The 'sort of want to do something but can't really do it that way because such and such doesn't like it and we haven't got that much money and what about this that and the other' attitude once a commitment to deploy is made has hampered more than helped in both campaigns.


rypt

2,548 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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tegwin said:
If your head of the military stands up and says that there is a problem.... rather than getting him to leave, would it not be in the best interest of the USA to discuss the problems with this man and try and get things so they are "right"..... Rather than simply brushing the "problem" and him under the rug?
Were politicians (and especially Obama) not full of themselves then yes that is how things should work

zax

1,071 posts

293 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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From what I've read McChrystal seems like just the sort of leader they need to have in place over there.

So he'll probably be gone by tomorrow...

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

249 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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zax said:
From what I've read McChrystal seems like just the sort of leader they need to have in place over there.

So he'll probably be gone by tomorrow...
Well said.

Politicians are well versed in putting their own interests in front of an achievable goal. The Obarmination seems to be showing his envy of a capable commander.

Mermaid

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21,492 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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zax said:
From what I've read McChrystal seems like just the sort of leader they need to have in place over there.

So he'll probably be gone by tomorrow...
& join forces with the Republicans smile

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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You gotta wonder just what the tanned blair clone has in plan to lead to a succesful campaign in Afg.

andy_s

19,855 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Obama to tell all in half an hour - 1st meeting was a bking, second meeting (strategy meeting on Afghanistan) he was absent....



Looks like he's out. Bad decision imo.

Edited by andy_s on Wednesday 23 June 18:23

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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BBC just reported that obama has relieved him of his command... bad decision IMO as said in a post at the top had high hopes for him but seems to be making bad choices.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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grumbledoak said:
I think he shouldn't. But he will.
Stamping his little feet does not make him look like the big guy. Silly man.

andy_s

19,855 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Petraeus back in the saddle.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Wonder what M. Yon will have to say??

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/michael-yons-crit...

Mermaid

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201 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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grumbledoak said:
grumbledoak said:
I think he shouldn't. But he will.
Stamping his little feet does not make him look like the big guy. Silly man.
Petulant...

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Mermaid said:
Petulant...
... child. yes

Bush, and I'm no fan, would have made a joke of this.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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grumbledoak said:
Mermaid said:
Petulant...
... child. yes

Bush, and I'm no fan, would have made a joke of this.
I think you may well be right there, wonder what jimbo & Ernest will have to say?

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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grumbledoak said:
Mermaid said:
Petulant...
... child. yes

Bush, and I'm no fan, would have made a joke of this.
I think you may well be right there, wonder what jimbo & Ernest will have to say?