Q plates
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TXWRX

Original Poster:

312 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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If you build a car up and get a q plate rather than an age related plate, does this mean it can't be fitted with a personal plate?

Thanks in advance

motco

17,416 posts

270 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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'fraid so... Sorry.

magpies

5,193 posts

206 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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your better off building with one doner and once through the tests you can then upgrade to your hearts content to where you wanted to be

TXWRX

Original Poster:

312 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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yeah, situation is car was originally built with one donor as a track car, then had a different engine and different box put in it as it evolved, looking know to put it on the road.

We do still have the original engine and box from the escort donor in the garage, definitely be a chunk more work to put them back in but maybe given they are both crossflows this would be the thing to do, be a shame to have it stuck on a q plate

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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TXWRX said:
yeah, situation is car was originally built with one donor as a track car, then had a different engine and different box put in it as it evolved, looking know to put it on the road.

We do still have the original engine and box from the escort donor in the garage, definitely be a chunk more work to put them back in but maybe given they are both crossflows this would be the thing to do, be a shame to have it stuck on a q plate
Why do you specifically want to move away from the Q plate?

If you had built a 30's style roadster then I could understand wanting to put an old style plate on it.

These days a Q plate offers more advantages than disadvantage as more people become aware of what it means. Once it was regarded as depicting a pile of $hit that could not be registered correctly. Now those in the know look on it as giving scope to use the best choices of engine, 'box & running gear with the added advantage of not having to achieve certain emissions levels.

Steve

migwell

76 posts

237 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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main Q plate problem I always see is that they are never worth as much

TXWRX

Original Poster:

312 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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could you explain a bit more what you mean about the emissions? really at the start of this process so there is a lot i need to find out, got the sva/iva thing downloaded but haven't gone through it fully yet

Paul.B

3,949 posts

288 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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TXWRX said:
yeah, situation is car was originally built with one donor as a track car, then had a different engine and different box put in it as it evolved, looking know to put it on the road.

We do still have the original engine and box from the escort donor in the garage, definitely be a chunk more work to put them back in but maybe given they are both crossflows this would be the thing to do, be a shame to have it stuck on a q plate
You would still need to prove that engine & 'box came from a single donor. Do you have the donor's V5 and chassis plate? Without these you would struggle.
Being a track day car has it been built with any thought of IVA? Getting it through that would be your 1st step. Registration is a walk in the park in comparrison, no mater what type of plate you get.

Paul.B

magpies

5,193 posts

206 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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I had a similar problem with my kit as I was asked to prove the age of the engine by the SVA engineer - I managed to get a Toyota Garage to send me a mail stating the range of years the engine was manufactured (from the engine number) and the SVA engineer accepted it and I got an age related plate for my build. I still had the V5 from the donar but had changed the suspension to coilovers (engineer did not pick up on that) but the rest was stock GT4


so if using a crossflow it should be (relatively) easy to prove.

motco

17,416 posts

270 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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My Westfield is a 'Q' plate and at MoT the only emissions test is for visible smoke, and the tester told me that as long as when he revs the engine he can still see across the workshop it's a pass! smokin

TXWRX

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312 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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right! no i'm happy it can can be sorted for the iva, i'm pretty well aware of the work that will need to be done and it isn't that much, all the fundamentals are there its more tidying it up than anything. I've got all the original paperwork from the escort we used to begin with, the age of the current engine is ok to get as there is a list available of all the production periods for the crossflow that can be matched to our engine number

TXWRX

Original Poster:

312 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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oh and any more info on that car magpies? looks good!

magpies

5,193 posts

206 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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thouroughly enjoyed building it, however 6 months into the build the MSA changed the rules for rallying and I would not be able to use it. original light weight panels were attached to a proper groupA rollcage welded to a Celica GT4 floorpan shortened by 10 inches front and back. Very large front mount intercooler fitted and adjustable waste gate and a few other mods gave just under 300bhp and 1240kg in weight. Did a track day at Croft and was second fastest out of 60 cars. Sold it last year for just over £5k which broke my heart.
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I'm now building a TVR S1 and putting a 24v cossy motor in it.

pilotea

185 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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migwell said:
main Q plate problem I always see is that they are never worth as much
which means you do not pay as much... think positively :-)

Jim Spencer

178 posts

246 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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When it comes round to MOT time a Q plate is well worth having.

Makes life very easy indeed, no emissions test, less lighting requirements etc etc, wouldn't even consider pushing for an age related or worse still 'new' registration..

Always keep it simple, no point making life hard, there's plenty of bits of officiadom already trying to do that for you!


66Quinny66

92 posts

204 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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The emissions / Q Plate thing is a bit of an urban myth now. Mine is on a Q but has emissions stated on the V5

C Lee Farquar

4,198 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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66Quinny66 said:
The emissions / Q Plate thing is a bit of an urban myth now. Mine is on a Q but has emissions stated on the V5
Does it get tested at MOT time? My tester says it's exempt and therefore doesn't test the emissions on mine.

qdos

825 posts

234 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Jim Spencer said:
When it comes round to MOT time a Q plate is well worth having.

Makes life very easy indeed, no emissions test, less lighting requirements etc etc, wouldn't even consider pushing for an age related or worse still 'new' registration..

Always keep it simple, no point making life hard, there's plenty of bits of officiadom already trying to do that for you!
I totally agree. I was always very proud of having a Q plate on my car I had so many people ask what it was about and they were always very impressed when I told them it ment it was a kit car and that I'd built it. There's so much snobbery around registration plates. Be proud that yours recognises that you built your own car.

Having said that I do have a K plate too but that was purely because it happened to get me "historic road tax" to be honest I'd love to have a Q plate on that one too.

If you've got a cracking car so why pretend some paper shuffling factory corporate built it rather than a genuine enthusiast?