Dealer bodge job.
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spaceship

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926 posts

205 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I know some will have comments about the choice of car but this post is just to show some dealers idea of a fix.

Went to see my folks today and asked my dad how his new car is. He's been having some issues with it having a sort of buzzing/rumbling noise from about 1700rpm to 2000rpm. It disappears after 2k rpm. Anyway, it's been in a couple of times to have it sorted, supposed known fault according to the dealer but it's still doing it.

So he got me to take it out and let me hear the racket it's making, then showed me their 'fix'. The dealer says it is coming from the airbox as it isn't braced enough and rattles about.

This is what it looks like.





All they've done is stuff some bits of foam round the airbox.

The car is a 59-plate Insignia SRi with about 700 miles on the clock.



dan19evans

4,954 posts

197 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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thats pathetic... i'd take it back and demand a proper fix

shalmaneser

6,452 posts

225 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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It's a bit of a bodge but if it works what's the problem?

What would you have them rather do? Wait for an updated part to be developed, prototyped, produced, ordered and delivered? Might never happen, and some high density sticky back foam does an appropriate job anyway.


Defcon5

6,471 posts

221 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Could it point to something else bing very wrong? Whole engine mounted incorrectly or anything?

spaceship

Original Poster:

926 posts

205 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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shalmaneser said:
It's a bit of a bodge but if it works what's the problem?

What would you have them rather do? Wait for an updated part to be developed, prototyped, produced, ordered and delivered? Might never happen, and some high density sticky back foam does an appropriate job anyway.
It doesn't work! Cheers for reading the whole post though. clap

Rollcage

11,345 posts

222 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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That is appalling. No other word for it. They should be ashamed that they consider that an acceptable fix on a virtually brand new car.

I wouldn't sell a banger for £600 bodged like that.

tegwin

1,682 posts

236 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Finding the source of rattles and squeeks is a very hard task on anything complex like a car...

I would imagine that by "bodging" various bits it will help them/you narrow down the exact cause of the noise.. once the experimentation proves conclusive, then a more perminant fix can be made....

But as others have said... you should be expected to do your own R&D on a new car!

va1o

16,116 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I wouldn't be very happy with that, very poor service.

Tunku

7,703 posts

258 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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That reminds me of the bodge on my Step-Father's new Seat Ibiza with the 'System Porsche' engine. The car was brand new and was in for its first service. Ran like a bag of nails after it. Eventually it was taken to an independant place to prove liability one way or the other, where it was found that the float in the float chamber of the carb (remember them? biggrin) had been broken and stuck back together with superglue which had failed. Quite why thay had to open the float bowl was never established as far as I remember. Maybe float hight was changed after running in, which I doubt, but you never know.

SFB

9 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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Early MGF's.
Waited ages for measure points from the factory to measure after jigging - final answer "They're all different"
Advice after factory body panels wouldn't fit "Pack them up with washers"

I really wanted to like the MGF.....

fastcars_hardy

274 posts

228 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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trying to find a noise on a car can be a pain. we use the same stuff because its the only way to stop them. the only thing i would say is he could of made it look a bit better. i would go back and ask for a road test with a tec to show him. i will sometimes fix a noise and later on find out that its the wrong noise and because im looking for them i find other ones.

fridaypassion

11,457 posts

258 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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looks OEM to me but then again I've had a few Renaults.

Blown2CV

31,660 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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Maybe the issue is common and they are expecting the car to be recalled but Vaux hasn't done it yet. They can't do a 'proper' fix in that type of situ without updated parts and recommendations from the mfr. Maybe if this was the case then they were doing him a favour, however you would expect to be told, not least so you can bring it back later.

Burrito

1,705 posts

250 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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fridaypassion said:
looks OEM to me but then again I've had a few Renaults.
yeslaugh You got one of them posh Renaults without rattles and squeaks 'ave you mister!

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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Sticky backed foam or felt strips are what manufacturers advise to be done in warranty situations like this if replacing the part won't cure the rattle/vibration/buzz. And it's no more of a bodge than many other fixes.

So long as it works of course.

TomM

662 posts

225 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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I had my R32 back to VW 2 weeks after I bought it as the headlights wobbled, and it looked like you were flashing people - made approaching junctions at night a bit nervy.

Picked it up, wobble gone - awesome! Cleaning it the following weekend and found cardboard shoved between the headlights and bumper banghead

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

237 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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Rich_W said:
Sticky backed foam or felt strips are what manufacturers advise to be done in warranty situations like this if replacing the part won't cure the rattle/vibration/buzz. And it's no more of a bodge than many other fixes.

So long as it works of course.
Except, what is pictured is a bodge, on a new car.
Done properly and neatly using closed cell neoprene foam strip and leaving gaps for water drainage, it might be acceptable.

Space Invader

73 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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Typical Vauxhall, average cars, below average dealers = do not buy!