Older (registered) kit cars, modifications and IVA
Discussion
Hi guys,
I've been out of the 'on road' kit car market for ages (been wrapped up in circuit racing) but am considering a road going kit for use on an overland trip to North Africa. I've messed with kits for years, but only pre SVA (back in the 80's).
I'm looking to buy an old UVA fugitive kit to uprate and prepare. By which I mean an engine and box swap and suspension upgrades.
A few questions if I may:
-If I buy an already road going kit (with V5 and has been MOT'd) and do stuff, will I need to get it re IVA'd or in some way inspected?
-When did the SVA come into play?
-If I buy a kit registered before that, will it be subject to any issues? many older kits in my experience were beetle based (even the tube rail chassis) and still list as beetle in the V5. wil this cause issues?
-Basically, I'm trying to avoid having to IVA this car by buying something already out there....but I want to ensure I'm not opening a tin of worms.
please help.
thanks in advance.
JP
I've been out of the 'on road' kit car market for ages (been wrapped up in circuit racing) but am considering a road going kit for use on an overland trip to North Africa. I've messed with kits for years, but only pre SVA (back in the 80's).
I'm looking to buy an old UVA fugitive kit to uprate and prepare. By which I mean an engine and box swap and suspension upgrades.
A few questions if I may:
-If I buy an already road going kit (with V5 and has been MOT'd) and do stuff, will I need to get it re IVA'd or in some way inspected?
-When did the SVA come into play?
-If I buy a kit registered before that, will it be subject to any issues? many older kits in my experience were beetle based (even the tube rail chassis) and still list as beetle in the V5. wil this cause issues?
-Basically, I'm trying to avoid having to IVA this car by buying something already out there....but I want to ensure I'm not opening a tin of worms.
please help.
thanks in advance.
JP
If you buy a correctly registered kitcar then you will not have to get involved with IVA.
The V5 must say something like Maker..UVA Model..Fugitive or 2 seat sports or convertible. As long as it is not still registered as the donor name you are ready to go.
Unless....
You change or modify the chassis.
Most anything else you do should be OK but you must notify DVLA of any changes in the data they list. Colour, fuel, number of wheels, engine number etc.
DVLA told me that any change to the chassis (even the repositioning of engine mounts) would require the chassis to be allocated a new VIN number then IVA. I had to do this when I built my Dakar kit as 24" of redundant chassis is chopped off the back end.
Steve
The V5 must say something like Maker..UVA Model..Fugitive or 2 seat sports or convertible. As long as it is not still registered as the donor name you are ready to go.
Unless....
You change or modify the chassis.
Most anything else you do should be OK but you must notify DVLA of any changes in the data they list. Colour, fuel, number of wheels, engine number etc.
DVLA told me that any change to the chassis (even the repositioning of engine mounts) would require the chassis to be allocated a new VIN number then IVA. I had to do this when I built my Dakar kit as 24" of redundant chassis is chopped off the back end.
Steve
jp-speed-triple said:
HI Steve, thanks
so where do Q plate cars come into it?
what did you build for the Dakar? I'm looking at the Heroes Legend event in 2013 after 2 years of build and shake down.
cheers.
JP
A Q plate is a vehicle "of indeterminate age or origin" which basically means it has been built from a variety of parts where not enough of them came from one vehicle so they could not put a specific age to the new build.so where do Q plate cars come into it?
what did you build for the Dakar? I'm looking at the Heroes Legend event in 2013 after 2 years of build and shake down.
cheers.
JP
If enough parts come from one donor (say a 1993 Sierra K reg) then they will allocate an age related registration number (K) that has not been used before.
My reference the Dakar is a 4x4 kitcar called a Dakar. It's good fun but not a competition vehicle.
Steve
totally agree, especially if its done 'right' and looks like a pro job.....which it would be.
However, still needs that V5 to say the right thing on it (modified or not)....which is the real hassle...I don't really want to go through a 'one off' IVA process...its hard enough with kit manufacturer backing.
However, still needs that V5 to say the right thing on it (modified or not)....which is the real hassle...I don't really want to go through a 'one off' IVA process...its hard enough with kit manufacturer backing.
So, if i buylt a car arround a sierra donor (engine, box, axel) and got an age related plate after IVA, I'm right in thinking it only has to pass emissions tests for the year of the sierra (i.e. it can run carbs, no cat, etc etc)?
If so, what happens if I replace it with say a duratec, supra box and freelander diff? Nothing of the car is old anymore, but what legislation would it have to adhere to, could it still be setup like the original sierra, or would it need a cat?
If so, what happens if I replace it with say a duratec, supra box and freelander diff? Nothing of the car is old anymore, but what legislation would it have to adhere to, could it still be setup like the original sierra, or would it need a cat?
I assume, since it would be heavily modified with those mods, you SHOULD get it re IVA'd?
?????? given up on this plan now anyway....going to buy someting Landrover based I think. Although, strickly speaking, as it will have a spacefreme chassis, I'm in the same boat....although it'll at least LOOK like a landrover.
J
?????? given up on this plan now anyway....going to buy someting Landrover based I think. Although, strickly speaking, as it will have a spacefreme chassis, I'm in the same boat....although it'll at least LOOK like a landrover.
J
Should, possibly, but then again my midget was built arround a herritage re-shell, when the guy who re-built it asked he was told just to re-rivet the VIN plate to the new chassis and tell the DVLA it had changed colour!
And there's no way something like a midget would pass a IVA anyway? Lots of pointy bits everywhere.
Just wondered about building something like a fisher fury which could get an age related plate from the sierra, putting it on the road as cheep as possible, then buying the new engine/gearbox/diff.
And there's no way something like a midget would pass a IVA anyway? Lots of pointy bits everywhere.
Just wondered about building something like a fisher fury which could get an age related plate from the sierra, putting it on the road as cheep as possible, then buying the new engine/gearbox/diff.
The Midget was type approved (or whatever passed as type appoved at the time it was in production) and the shell was just one component. As the new shell hadn't been altered in any way it was perfectly legitimate to swap the plate over.
Also pefectly legitimate to IVA a kit with all donor components and then change the engine, but most people would be very reluctant to do that bearing in mind the amount of work involved.
Also pefectly legitimate to IVA a kit with all donor components and then change the engine, but most people would be very reluctant to do that bearing in mind the amount of work involved.
Edited by singlecoil on Thursday 5th August 18:30
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