thruxton murc sv 640 et f430 scu

[lionman]

hi all and what a way to introduce myself
4 lucky moi, will be going with dad to drive murc 670sv and f430 scu on 16 july.
sorry, not 640 as it says in the post.
i am a very talented driver and am a bit concerned about the level of freedom of the drive i will have;anyone got any experience of that.

its a pleasure to be on the piston heads and hope to add much 'fuel', or at least whilst there is unleaded, to this place.

missing my clio 16v 92 but london is safer place for it

love and peace

lion

Edited by lionman on Sunday 27th June 20:14

Edited by lionman on Sunday 27th June 20:15

[frodo_monkey]

"i am a very talented driver and am a bit concerned about the level of freedom of the drive i will have;anyone got any experience of that."

This concerns me... Are you currently in Formula One? If not, you probably aren't as good as you think you are. LISTEN to the instructor next to you, they are trying a) to help you and bring you along, and b) to keep you, the car, and above all themselves safe. If they are telling you to slow down it is for your own safety! Much as though I think this is a wind-up, just bear in mind that you will get a hell of a lot more out of the day if you take on board the points the instructor mentions, and are willing to accept constructive criticism

[ymwoods]

frodo_monkey said:

"i am a very talented driver and am a bit concerned about the level of freedom of the drive i will have;anyone got any experience of that."

This concerns me... Are you currently in Formula One? If not, you probably aren't as good as you think you are. LISTEN to the instructor next to you, they are trying a) to help you and bring you along, and b) to keep you, the car, and above all themselves safe. If they are telling you to slow down it is for your own safety! Much as though I think this is a wind-up, just bear in mind that you will get a hell of a lot more out of the day if you take on board the points the instructor mentions, and are willing to accept constructive criticism

[phone]x9

Listen to this man. Everyone has something to learn, you will find that if you really are as good as you think you are then after the first run the instructer will realise this and let you do your thing. Other than that, he will instruct on how to improve.

[Google [bot]]

Well Gentlemen, perhaps you should get your facts straight. If you had bothered to check lionman's profile you would see that he is a very experienced racer.

lionman in his profile said:

used to race from n london to s london regularly at night. i was v v v lucky in all my experiences, but thats down to talent right?

[ymwoods]

Google [bot] said:

Well Gentlemen, perhaps you should get your facts straight. If you had bothered to check lionman's profile you would see that he is a very experienced racer.

lionman in his profile said:

used to race from n london to s london regularly at night. i was v v v lucky in all my experiences, but thats down to talent right?

Oh my mistake, in that case you tell that darned instructer that he should be the one in the lernin seat! just tell him to buckle up and enjoy the ride.

[frodo_monkey]

All I can say is thank God he isn't coming somewhere I instruct! I'd need to up the life insurance...

[lionman]

lol
i just wanted to know, can you put your foot down.
i get the general idea;sounds good.
q."hi man. just put your seat belt on, dont say a word, tell me where the braking points are, and enjoy the ride."
thanks for the feedback all;
will post photos after the event (can u post vids?)

Edited by lionman on Monday 28th June 13:33

[steveavxt]

If you are that good a driver you will find 'experience' days rather frustrating. You would be much better off hiring a proper race car (not a fast road car) with data logging and professional race tuition to get the best out of it. It will probably cost you 10 times as much as a supercar day but the instructor will be shouting at you to go faster and get your foot down.

Hiring a radical from somewhere like here will really get the adrenaline going.

http://www.iwannagofaster.com/

[lionman]

steveavxt said:

If you are that good a driver you will find 'experience' days rather frustrating. You would be much better off hiring a proper race car (not a fast road car) with data logging and professional race tuition to get the best out of it. It will probably cost you 10 times as much as a supercar day but the instructor will be shouting at you to go faster and get your foot down.

Hiring a radical from somewhere like here will really get the adrenaline going.

http://www.iwannagofaster.com/

music to my ears;thanks alot.

[lionman]

back next friday weekend with the report and hopefully a screaming instructor on film (joke)
cheers gears
Lion

[pilotea]

ymwoods said:

Google [bot] said:

Well Gentlemen, perhaps you should get your facts straight. If you had bothered to check lionman's profile you would see that he is a very experienced racer.

lionman in his profile said:

used to race from n london to s london regularly at night. i was v v v lucky in all my experiences, but thats down to talent right?

Oh my mistake, in that case you tell that darned instructer that he should be the one in the lernin seat! just tell him to buckle up and enjoy the ride.

If there was something called Formula 0 (zero) he would win it.... every time....

[t11ner]

steveavxt said:

If you are that good a driver you will find 'experience' days rather frustrating. You would be much better off hiring a proper race car (not a fast road car) with data logging and professional race tuition to get the best out of it. It will probably cost you 10 times as much as a supercar day but the instructor will be shouting at you to go faster and get your foot down.

Have to disagree with some of that. No instructor is going to constantly push a driver irrespective of his abilities whether on an experience day or a full race training event; the pace that you go at on any instructed event is always going to be dictated by the instructors view of your abilities to get round a lap.

This has been covered before but the vast majority of experience-drive venues do not set rev limits and they do not tell the instructors to hold the drivers back or slow them down. On the other hand if I'm sat in a car with a guy who thinks he is an overwhelming talent but in fact could not overtake my granny without putting the car into a barrier then he is going to get held at a speed that he can handle whilst I try to teach him how to drive the car properly, safely and quickly.

I think you may be right that the OP will find an experience day very frustrating but that's in his hands! On the other hand, Frodo may be right and this is a wind up .

Steve H

[lionman]

hi to one and all


what a day.
lambo was a complete let down because the owner of the car was the instructor
sera sera
but
the scudirera 430 16m whatever u call it, the one with the special paint job that goes to racing drivers 217k blah blah
that was a hoot...instructor holding the wheel along with me with foot planted in 5th going round corner on extra free lap
because video camera gave up the ghost at about 130 140 mph? dunno but it was fast
personally, the cayman was the nicest sounding, nicest feeling nicest car
more photos and video to come but here is the ///


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNkUY2lA7Vw


here is my certificate
i recommend thruxton to everyone
dispite the lambo, the people were excellent and hats off to the owner/instructor for giving me the priviledge to drive such a wonderful car fast or not so fast...(mind u, still had the lambo a bit skittish in the corners, just , you know, taking care of the engine etc etc etc........)
peace
cheers

Edited by lionman on Friday 16th July 19:55

Edited by lionman on Friday 16th July 22:54

Edited by lionman on Saturday 17th July 23:38

[B16 FYS]

lionman said:

hi all and what a way to introduce myself
4 lucky moi, will be going with dad to drive murc 670sv and f430 scu on 16 july.
sorry, not 640 as it says in the post.
i am a very talented driver and am a bit concerned about the level of freedom of the drive i will have;anyone got any experience of that.

its a pleasure to be on the piston heads and hope to add much 'fuel', or at least whilst there is unleaded, to this place.

missing my clio 16v 92 but london is safer place for it

love and peace

lion

Edited by lionman on Sunday 27th June 20:14

Edited by lionman on Sunday 27th June 20:15

Hi Lionman.

You say "you are a very talented driver" - Yet you had to be shown how to hold the steering wheel correctly in your youtube video of the F430 Scud rag top ??

Where did you get your talent from, or who told you???

If your "talent" comes from driving very quickly on "the queens" public roads, I suggest you calm down a bit or risk losing your license. Like many have already found out.

Cheers

Stevie F
B16 FYS

[steveavxt]

t11ner said:

Have to disagree with some of that. No instructor is going to constantly push a driver irrespective of his abilities whether on an experience day or a full race training event; the pace that you go at on any instructed event is always going to be dictated by the instructors view of your abilities to get round a lap.

I see your point but from my experiences the instructors in race training are always pushing me on, perhaps because I'm so slow

I went to an experience day a few years ago to drive an Atom 325. I'm a fairly seasoned track driver (in a powerful mid engined rear wheel drive car) and was only going to the day to get an idea of the feel of the car as I was looking to buy one. I'm no driving god but even trying to drive it slightly quickly was punished by the owner. I wasn't trying to set a fast lap, show off any talent or trying to find the limit but simply trying to test the handling and get something from the day. I can appreciate that the ability of each driver differs and the owner doesn't want his pride a joy crashed but I honestly felt ripped off and would not do another one of these days again.

[t11ner]

I can understand that, I think a lot of experienced track drivers would be a bit disappointed by a "driving experience" package - especially if the instructor is also the owner which I agree can lead to an amount of nannying. The difficulty with all experience drives is that we have only a matter of minutes to try to get you on the right lines on an unfamiliar circuit, in an unfamiliar car, often with people who have not driven on track before and do not understand things like braking but do know how to accelerate! A few laps isn't always enough to assess and progress a driver from zero to race or fast-trackday pace without taking some severe risks.

I'd always be happier to push someone on harder in their own car whilst instructing on a trackday as they already know the car, they have usually already got an idea of where the circuit goes and often have a good amount of experience like yourself. Similar thing applies to hiring a car for race testing or training - it's there for a different purpose and so you would be pushed harder but a reasonable standard of driving and experience is expected at the start and if it's not there then I'm sure the instructor will soon point it out