Cerb vs. Tuscan forums
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Having just browsed through every post in the last 12 months on both the Tuscan and Cerb forums as research for what I'm going to upgrade to next when financial issues settle down, here are the conclusions...
1. People with Cerbs seem to have lots of minor niggles, but not much more serious than a new clutch
2. People with Tuscans seem to have lots of similar minor niggles, which somehow seem to have more serious consequences, and obviously a very high percentage of (earlier) Tuscans seem to have had engine rebuilds.
I don't want to start a boasting/bitching thread here, but there really does seem to be a lot more woes on that forum.
Personally, I'm now back to trying to find ways of justifying keeping my Cerb rather than risking the minefield of another car at some point this year.
So, if your car's running well, treat her to a decent polish this Sunday... then thrash the nuts off her for a couple of hundred miles.
[Edited & toned down a little as it seemed a too polarised following DJ's reply - definitely not trying to start an argument]
>>> Edited by j_s_g on Sunday 14th March 01:11
1. People with Cerbs seem to have lots of minor niggles, but not much more serious than a new clutch
2. People with Tuscans seem to have lots of similar minor niggles, which somehow seem to have more serious consequences, and obviously a very high percentage of (earlier) Tuscans seem to have had engine rebuilds.
I don't want to start a boasting/bitching thread here, but there really does seem to be a lot more woes on that forum.
Personally, I'm now back to trying to find ways of justifying keeping my Cerb rather than risking the minefield of another car at some point this year.
So, if your car's running well, treat her to a decent polish this Sunday... then thrash the nuts off her for a couple of hundred miles.
[Edited & toned down a little as it seemed a too polarised following DJ's reply - definitely not trying to start an argument]
>>> Edited by j_s_g on Sunday 14th March 01:11
I'm not sure I agree. The Cerb forum does contain a fair few minor niggles. Most of the niggles mentioned and design problems (in my opinion) as they seem to occur over and over again. The Tuscan does not seem to suffer from the same number of niggles and my impression is that they are the better built car. However, there's no hiding from the fact that the sp6 engine in the Tuscan has proved less reliable than the AJP. I'd guess Tuscans fail on average around the 14-18k mile mark whereas AJP's last 45-50k before needing any work. There have been horror stories for certain owners of both models but if I were to guess which would have more faults, major and minor out of a 2003 Tuscan and a 2003 LW Cerbie I'd be hard pushed to decide.
_DJ_ said:
There have been horror stories for certain owners of both models but if I were to guess which would have more faults, major and minor out of a 2003 Tuscan and a 2003 LW Cerbie I'd be hard pushed to decide.
I'd definitely agree with this - I think they're both pretty much sorted now.
Plus, maybe it's just that the Tuscan was a really fast selling model... more owners = more problems. But how many Cerb posts have there been with doors popping open, rear windows dropping out, major exterior leakages (not footwell), throttle cables snapping
, speedos racking up 190mph (and the miles to go with it) whilst it's sat on the drive, etc? All these are the same simple little niggles that Cerbs have as the causes (dodgy connections, bad water-proofing, sometimes substandard components). It just seems that the effects are more drastic - possibly because it was a bit more daring with design decisions made (re. targa top, dash pod, etc)! It was just a bit scary to see the negativity of the forum.
>> Edited by j_s_g on Sunday 14th March 01:07
j_s_g said:
Plus, maybe it's just that the Tuscan was a really fast selling model... more owners = more problems.
>> Edited by j_s_g on Sunday 14th March 01:07
Hmm, not sure the bunch of people who're on their third slave cylinder/starter motor for their Cerb would consider the fault all that minor, especially if they're 400 miles from home..but I tend to agree that the extraordinary Tuscan attracts a share of abuse for unreliability on PH. As Joolz keeps saying, this simply means there has never been a better time to buy one (if you can get one insured [not trying to rub in your issue, j_s_g, just that some of the insurance quotes on Tuscs are frightening])
However, there may be another factor in this: Look at the Tamora/350 forum, and people are also often expressing critical views. I wonder to what extent this is to do with Tuscans/Tamoras/350c's often being people's "first new TVR", wheras I would guess that more Cerb owners have had a TVR of some sort before.
>> Edited by Tam Lin on Sunday 14th March 07:57, 'cause he can't spell
>> Edited by Tam Lin on Sunday 14th March 07:58
I suppose it is the fact that this forum is the best place to seek advice on problems.
The people are on here are always most helpful and there is always someone who knows what the fix is.
People are also unlikely to post a topic saying their car is running fine.
As for me, well I have had my Cerb for just over 3 months now (My first TVR).
Yes I have had some minor problems (windows, water leaks etc) ..... but overall the car is FANTASTIC
The sheer joy I get from driving the car makes it all worthwhile !!!
The people are on here are always most helpful and there is always someone who knows what the fix is.
People are also unlikely to post a topic saying their car is running fine.
As for me, well I have had my Cerb for just over 3 months now (My first TVR).
Yes I have had some minor problems (windows, water leaks etc) ..... but overall the car is FANTASTIC
The sheer joy I get from driving the car makes it all worthwhile !!!
Midlandman said:
I suppose it is the fact that this forum is the best place to seek advice on problems.
The people are on here are always most helpful and there is always someone who knows what the fix is.
People are also unlikely to post a topic saying their car is running fine.
As for me, well I have had my Cerb for just over 3 months now (My first TVR).
Yes I have had some minor problems (windows, water leaks etc) ..... but overall the car is FANTASTIC
The sheer joy I get from driving the car makes it all worthwhile !!!
3 months - slave cylinder, starter electronics, electric window, clutch, exhaust, throttle pots, speedo sensor, windscreen wiper motor, diff bush, noisy damper. That was after the car had been given the once over by a well respected specialist and a few k's worth of work in the previous couple of months! Having said that, the Tuscan I was looking at as an alternative has just gone back to Blackpool with serious engine issues (and it previously had a 2003 spec rebuild and heads).
My honest opinion is that the Cerb no more reliable than a Tuscan but once you've got a sorted example of either then you'll have a relatively pain free experience. Well, lets hope that's the case!
Darren
)my first cerb, did 2 AJP engines in 12k miles, exploded one of its cats, the speedo kept packing up, went through 3 shock absorbers (one spectacularly dangerously), Alarm packed up, the windows stopped working other than that it was ok.
The second, 99 model year, AJP engined car was even worse, with lethal suspension upright failures, 2 shocks, 2 differentials, new alarm system etc....
My Griff was almost clockwork by comparison...
Bennno
The second, 99 model year, AJP engined car was even worse, with lethal suspension upright failures, 2 shocks, 2 differentials, new alarm system etc....
My Griff was almost clockwork by comparison...
Bennno
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