RE: Mid-Engined V18 Mini Revealed
RE: Mid-Engined V18 Mini Revealed
Thursday 1st July 2010

Mid-Engined V18 Mini Revealed

UK's biggest diesel engine makes Mini look like an ancillary unit


Cummins V18 has 12 turbochargers
Cummins V18 has 12 turbochargers
Fans of Mini and/or gargantuan diesel motors should find this quirky exhibit worth a double-take if they're visiting the Goodwood FoS this weekend.

We've Cummins to thank for the spectacle because aside from being the world's largest independent maker of diesel engines, they also appear to have a sense of humour.

The exhibit was conceived after a previous event when the company showed off its largest engine (and the largest diesel engine made in the UK), and some wag asked if it could be fitted to his Mini.

The QSK78 engine weighs in at over 11 tonnes and is er, quite large, so an extended wheelbase and supercar-style mid-mounted application was the only option.

"We never like to let a challenge go by unanswered so we got to thinking maybe we could fit the QSK78 into an original Austin Mini. It proved to be a bit tricky to fit under the bonnet but our engineers came up with a more creative solution," says Steve Nendick, Cummins' spokesman.

The QSK78, which is used to power mining industry dump trucks capable of carrying 360 tonnes, is a V18 monster with a capacity of 78 litres and uses 12 turbochargers (count 'em!) to develop 3500bhp and around 10,300lb ft of torque.

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Zircon

Original Poster:

305 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Well it is no good if it doesn't actually power the car!

That's like saying 'yeah I put a jet engine on a microlite, but it would just rip it to pieces'.

What they have achieved is a big diesel engine on a Mini-shaped trolley!

R66STU

276 posts

205 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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The standard fuel tank wont last long smile

Chris-R

756 posts

216 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Zircon said:
Well it is no good if it doesn't actually power the car!

That's like saying 'yeah I put a jet engine on a microlite, but it would just rip it to pieces'.

What they have achieved is a big diesel engine on a Mini-shaped trolley!
Must admit I'd rather they'd brought along one of the dump trucks - but I guess the stand space is paid for by the square metre...

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Zircon said:
Well it is no good if it doesn't actually power the car!

That's like saying 'yeah I put a jet engine on a microlite, but it would just rip it to pieces'.

What they have achieved is a big diesel engine on a Mini-shaped trolley!
I'm pretty sure it can't move at all. the engine is 11 tons, so that would be somewhere about 3 tons per wheel. Do you suppose there's anything that size which could take the load? (You'd need solid wheels - it would look more like a train bogey.)

Huntsman

9,331 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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You miserable gits.

Good on them for bringing such a fun monster bit of kit.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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I hope they start that up at some point. Looking forward to seeing that!

hurststeve

101 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Silly. Like the earlier poster said, it's just an engine on a trolley. And a fixed speed engine at that. With four turbochargers, not twelve.

OK, twelve. And not fixed speed. But it's still an engine on a trolley with no cooling system or exhausts.

Edited by hurststeve on Thursday 1st July 10:36

407nomates

13,758 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Chris-R said:
Must admit I'd rather they'd brought along one of the dump trucks - but I guess the stand space is paid for by the square metre...
Having worked alongside them, I can confidently say that getting one of those into the FOS would be tantamount to an impossibility.

http://www.komatsu.com/ce/products/pdfs/KAC_960E-1...

bales

1,905 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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hurststeve said:
Silly. Like the earlier poster said, it's just an engine on a trolley. And a fixed speed engine at that. With four turbochargers, not twelve.
Have you even looked at the picture?

Maybe have a re-count of the turbo's.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Very cool cool where's the PH O'meter??? Reckon this needs an 11 out of 10 for shear barmyness!!! Love it truly biggrin



BTW - should a WAG be referred to as "his car" or "her car", or have I missed something? confused

lodgy

142 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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i made them turbos smile

DanGPR

991 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Turbo for every 1.5 cylinders? Odd decision?

louismchuge

1,644 posts

213 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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it's not even a trolley as it cant be wheeled around. It's just on a bloody great plinth if you look underneath!

Still, hats of to them for having a laugh!

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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DanGPR said:
Turbo for every 1.5 cylinders? Odd decision?
Think of it more as one turbo for every 6.4litres of displacement.


GingerWizard

4,721 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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thats the biggest swap i'v seen to date.... Good effort!

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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doogz said:
6.5 maybe?

It's still early, but there's no excuse for getting that wrong! tongue out
http://www.everytime.cummins.com/assets/pdf/408714...

6.4666 if the brochure is to be believed. biggrin

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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hurststeve said:
Silly. Like the earlier poster said, it's just an engine on a trolley. And a fixed speed engine at that. With four turbochargers, not twelve.
Er, if it's fixed speed, why do cummins give peak power and peak torque values at different RPM? (1900rpm and 1500rpm respectively)

http://www.everytime.cummins.com/assets/pdf/408714...

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ctallchris

1,266 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Huntsman said:
You miserable gits.

Good on them for bringing such a fun monster bit of kit.
i thought it was a motor show not an agricultural / mining equipment symposium. I don't think there are any vehicles that og on uk roads with v18 diesils like that. Even larger lorries are generally a bit smaller. Although i may just be a little bit disappointed that there is no palns for a mid engined mini frown

i would be happy with a v6/8

RB26DETT

2,519 posts

204 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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I think they ruined a Mini. Atleast they should make it drivable.

Now its just a huge paper weight.

red_slr

20,705 posts

218 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Cummins have lots of very good diesel truck motors that they could have actually got into the back of a mini and run up the hill. Instead they decide to weld the front and rear of a mini onto a static display engine. ????? :/