250bhp for £3K?
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Let's suppose a chap with an engine compartment that could contain more or less anything wants a minimum of 250 bhp and has a maximum budget of £3,000. What would you suggest? It has to include the base engine, and good condition would be better than poor, good reliability would be good too.
Why are everyones questions so vague ?
Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
stevieturbo said:
Why are everyones questions so vague ?
Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
I don't think that's fair, the fact that the chap has an engine compartment would indicate to me that he has a car, and the 250 bhp would suggest that the question is about an engine. If the question had asked 250bhp and 5 speeds, then that would suggest gearbox as well.Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
Still, to make myself absolutely clear, I am talking about an engine with whatever would be needed to make that engine produce 250 (or more) bhp.
Slinky said:
Now that really is quite tasteful.Surely the installation packaging also needs to be specified, as a minimum, though?
For example, if it's your trackday kit car project we're talking about, then whilst the Subaru and Nissan engines suggested so far are both excellent options, neither comes with a gearbox suitable for mid-engined, RWD installation, so you'd have some problems to solve within your £3K budget?
For example, if it's your trackday kit car project we're talking about, then whilst the Subaru and Nissan engines suggested so far are both excellent options, neither comes with a gearbox suitable for mid-engined, RWD installation, so you'd have some problems to solve within your £3K budget?
singlecoil said:
stevieturbo said:
Why are everyones questions so vague ?
Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
I don't think that's fair, the fact that the chap has an engine compartment would indicate to me that he has a car, and the 250 bhp would suggest that the question is about an engine. If the question had asked 250bhp and 5 speeds, then that would suggest gearbox as well.Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
Still, to make myself absolutely clear, I am talking about an engine with whatever would be needed to make that engine produce 250 (or more) bhp.
Hence you need to be a lot more specific about the car and its current drivetrain/gearbox before you will get any remotly usefull advice regarding what engines could be fitted.
MGSteve said:
singlecoil said:
stevieturbo said:
Why are everyones questions so vague ?
Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
I don't think that's fair, the fact that the chap has an engine compartment would indicate to me that he has a car, and the 250 bhp would suggest that the question is about an engine. If the question had asked 250bhp and 5 speeds, then that would suggest gearbox as well.Are you wanting just an engine ? an engine and gearbox ? a car ?
Just because an engine might cost £3k, doesnt mean it can actually be made into a usable package for £3k.
Although it should be fairly easy to pick up an Impreza turbo for £3k these days
Still, to make myself absolutely clear, I am talking about an engine with whatever would be needed to make that engine produce 250 (or more) bhp.
Hence you need to be a lot more specific about the car and its current drivetrain/gearbox before you will get any remotly usefull advice regarding what engines could be fitted.
singlecoil said:
Let's suppose a chap with an engine compartment that could contain more or less anything
but let's not argue about it.I didn't mention the gearbox because I am assuming that an adaptor plate or bellhousing would need to be made, and wanted to keep the fireld as wide as possible, not restricting things to an engine that would be an easy fit in a certain car or to a particular gearbox. It's a much more general question than that.
I hadn't realised that some people would take the question the way they did, or I would have made the first post a lot longer and more specific (in a general way
)Do you need to spend all £3k?
If you don't - SAAB 2.3 slant-4.
£500 will pick you up a 9000 with tax and MOT that you can drive home with 200-225BHP off the bat. This give you an easy £2500 to buy a Vauxhall Omega gearbox (assuming you want to go RWD) and accessories (like a bigger turbo).
If you don't - SAAB 2.3 slant-4.
£500 will pick you up a 9000 with tax and MOT that you can drive home with 200-225BHP off the bat. This give you an easy £2500 to buy a Vauxhall Omega gearbox (assuming you want to go RWD) and accessories (like a bigger turbo).
//j17 said:
Do you need to spend all £3k?
If you don't - SAAB 2.3 slant-4.
£500 will pick you up a 9000 with tax and MOT that you can drive home with 200-225BHP off the bat. This give you an easy £2500 to buy a Vauxhall Omega gearbox (assuming you want to go RWD) and accessories (like a bigger turbo).
You'll probably need to buy several Omega gearboxes if you are planning on raising the boost If you don't - SAAB 2.3 slant-4.
£500 will pick you up a 9000 with tax and MOT that you can drive home with 200-225BHP off the bat. This give you an easy £2500 to buy a Vauxhall Omega gearbox (assuming you want to go RWD) and accessories (like a bigger turbo).
Its already been said but i think an SR20DET would be the way forward, i have a Primera GT (with the SR20DE non turbo) and i was looking to get a turbo and found a group on Ebay that will do the whole lot for around 2 grand and you should end up with 250BHP with a good exhaust, that leaves you with £1000 to get the engine which should be easily enough.
what wheels are you looking to drive - Front or Rear?
what about a cossworth YB 3k should see you right for a reliable 250bhp. they dont need much to make them fast and with a little more than standard boost it should be reliable too.
If you wanted to be different have considered a 2l zetec with the right bits to make it RWD an aftermarket ecu and a few other its you are looking at 1k roughly and 150-165 brake depending on mapping etc which leaves a fair amount of money to tweak it and if it went pop low mileage engine can be found for less than £400
what about a cossworth YB 3k should see you right for a reliable 250bhp. they dont need much to make them fast and with a little more than standard boost it should be reliable too.
If you wanted to be different have considered a 2l zetec with the right bits to make it RWD an aftermarket ecu and a few other its you are looking at 1k roughly and 150-165 brake depending on mapping etc which leaves a fair amount of money to tweak it and if it went pop low mileage engine can be found for less than £400
I forgot to ask - what are you planning to do with the car when the engine is finished?
and you also need to consider torque i don't want to patronise or be condescending but people don't generally consider torque or power throughout the rev range. HP sells cars especially big numbers like your 250bhp, it would also mean you would need to consider your transmission options too especially if you are working to a budget of 3k - a point that was raised earlier about the omega gearboxes.
It would make the decision easier if you had a more specific idea on what your intentions are
and you also need to consider torque i don't want to patronise or be condescending but people don't generally consider torque or power throughout the rev range. HP sells cars especially big numbers like your 250bhp, it would also mean you would need to consider your transmission options too especially if you are working to a budget of 3k - a point that was raised earlier about the omega gearboxes.
It would make the decision easier if you had a more specific idea on what your intentions are
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