Toyo or Eagle F1
Discussion
Anyone had Eagle F1s and has changed to Toyo tyres. I have looked at a few TVRs at the meetings and have noticed most now have Toyo's on them is this due to price or are they a better tyre, i have got F1s on my Cerby now but just wondered when i change them soon what would be best to go on next.The size i have on are 225x50x16 and have been told it may be best to go for 225x45x16 any views on both these things would help me choose the next set better.
I've got the same dillema with my griff. Its currently shod in Eagle F1's. I've decided to go for Bridgstone SO'3 as a) I can get them at cost price, b) after reading every tyre thread on here it would seem the bad rep they have is a load of tosh and c) I cant get the same tread pattern front and rear in GSD'3 although that wouldnt be the case with yours as they're all 16".
There are a few good comments on this thread I started:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=9&h=&t=85654
The link to the tyre comparison tables is great although unfortunately there's no mention of Toyo's. As quite a few people have said, tyres are a personal choice really. However, as Shpub has said, most sprinters and hill-climbers etc use bridgestone SO3's, if there was an advantage to be had from any other tyre, they'd be using it!
Editied to add, that if you do much wet weather driving I'd stick with F1's - all the research I've done points to these tyres being better than any others in the wet.
>> Edited by jam1et on Monday 15th March 09:46
There are a few good comments on this thread I started:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=9&h=&t=85654
The link to the tyre comparison tables is great although unfortunately there's no mention of Toyo's. As quite a few people have said, tyres are a personal choice really. However, as Shpub has said, most sprinters and hill-climbers etc use bridgestone SO3's, if there was an advantage to be had from any other tyre, they'd be using it!
Editied to add, that if you do much wet weather driving I'd stick with F1's - all the research I've done points to these tyres being better than any others in the wet.
>> Edited by jam1et on Monday 15th March 09:46
JonRB said:
I've heard it said that TVR would endorse "Crisp 'n' Dry" as their engine oil of choice over Mobil 1, if the deal was right. ![]()
Seriously, there is far more to endorsements than simply what is the best.
You mean that TVR has not spent years testing all tyre brands to see which was the best one to fit?
Interestingly, I spent a long time discussing tyres with the local ProTyre (Micheldever subsidiary) this morning. The main bloke (who used to work for Bridgestone) is quote dissmissive of SO3s compared to SO2s. All staff considered Toyos to be budget tyres.
They reckoned Michelins were best (but too stiff for a light weight car) with Pirelli, Continental and Dunlop all good contenders.
Having driven both for 20,000 miles, I reckon the SO3s are fine in terms of grip but the SO2s were better for comfort, features (rim protectors), noise and style. As such, I toyed
with the idea of Toyos but eventually caved in and am now trying out Pirelli P-Zero Assymetricals.
I'll let everyone know the verdict when the decent weather arrives. I have already noted that they bulge out from the rim, good for protecting against kerbing but bad for looking like a boy racer with oversized tyres.
Ian A.
PS. They reckoned nitrogen fill wasn't worth the effort either but that could be something to do with the 8 grand it would cost to install!
They reckoned Michelins were best (but too stiff for a light weight car) with Pirelli, Continental and Dunlop all good contenders.
Having driven both for 20,000 miles, I reckon the SO3s are fine in terms of grip but the SO2s were better for comfort, features (rim protectors), noise and style. As such, I toyed
with the idea of Toyos but eventually caved in and am now trying out Pirelli P-Zero Assymetricals. I'll let everyone know the verdict when the decent weather arrives. I have already noted that they bulge out from the rim, good for protecting against kerbing but bad for looking like a boy racer with oversized tyres.
Ian A.
PS. They reckoned nitrogen fill wasn't worth the effort either but that could be something to do with the 8 grand it would cost to install!
Well I have Eagle F1's on the T350. Had Toyo's on the Cerbera and SO2 PP on the Chimaera. Not a lot to choose between them I would say excepting that the Eagle's don't seem to provide the dry traction of the S02 or Toyo, really good in the wet though. However I have only had the T350 since December so it isn't an apples to apples comparison anyway, no warm dry days yet.
I haven't had the Toyos on the Corrado long enough to bed in yet, so can't really comment yet. But give it a while and I will be in a position to compare them against the Goodyear Ventura.
General feedback from others is that they have good grip and performance but achieve it though a fairly soft compound so don't wear well.
Incidentally I have Bridgestone S03PPs on the back of my Chimaera 500 at the moment and still have S02s on the front. Can't say I have any complaints at present.
General feedback from others is that they have good grip and performance but achieve it though a fairly soft compound so don't wear well.
Incidentally I have Bridgestone S03PPs on the back of my Chimaera 500 at the moment and still have S02s on the front. Can't say I have any complaints at present.
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