E60 Nav Retrofit

[Fox-]

Thought this might be a useful place to ask as a search has turned up the fact that gizlaroc seems to know exactly what he's talking about, so I hope to get a reply out of him

Collecting an E60 this week (Dont worry, not for me, the E39 stays!) and considernig the possibility of retrofitting navigation.

The car is a 2007 LCI model with Bluetooth, Voice Control but no navigation. From reading around, the internet has told me two things:

a) Retrofitting navigation is a nightmare. It will take 6 years, cost £10,000,000 and require you to do a bare metal strip down of your entire car.
b) Retrofitting navigation is easy, it takes 30 minutes, its plug and play, and just needs coding by an Autologic dealer.

I suspect the truth is half way between these.

What exactly would I need?

I am not sure whether I am that fussed about whether its Business or Pro Nav. Businss I'd assume is the easiest as I'd just need a nav computer and a GPS receiver, right? That said, I've seen Pro Nav units and the widescreen display for £599 on Ebay. What else is needed?

Thanks guys!

[Fox-]

Come on gizlaroc help me out

[theaxe]

I think this thread should get you started. Take a look at the pdfs linked from there.

Edited by theaxe on Tuesday 6th July 12:58

[Fox-]

Useful thread, thanks.

I keep thinking Business nav might be very cost effective given all the people upgrading to Pro Nav and leaving spare Business nav units. Plus the screen wont need changing.

Is my thought process wrong?

[theaxe]

It's a sound thought process but I tend to think that if you're going to all of that hassle you'd probably want the better nav option. In for a penny, in for a pound as they say!

[Fox-]

theaxe said:

It's a sound thought process but I tend to think that if you're going to all of that hassle you'd probably want the better nav option. In for a penny, in for a pound as they say!

This is what everyone says but at 200ish for business nav and a swap of the unit versus 600 ish for pro nav its quite a bit more faff!

[gizlaroc]

Quick summary.

As all E60s have idrive you can go two ways...

Business nav, simply swap units and you are up and running.

Prof nav, you need to swap the the units, the screen and the cable that hooks them up. This is only the cable between the nav unit and the screen, costs around £20 from the dealer.


Now, every unit in the E60 can be coded for either...

standard - speakers run off the head unit.
hi-fi - head unit again sends signal direct but at half volume to drive the amp.
Logic7/dsp - no output through speaker outs, sent through optical instead.


Now, if you are lucky and get a unit from a car that matches the car you are putting it in you can simply swap them, howver, this includes whether the car has cd changer, dab, usb., bluetooth, aux etc. etc.
So the chances of it being an exact match are slim.


I would call autologic and ask who your local dealer is, then speak to them, say you want to put nav in and you may have to code the new unit for xxxxx options. Should take 30 mins max and cost around £30-40.
If you put the new unit in and it all works straight away then it is a bonus, if not pop down to the autologic dealer and let them turn the options on.

[Fox-]

Brilliant, so business Nav really is just a straight swap (Coding aside)?

On the LCI models what are the differences between Pro and Business nav - just the fact Pro has dual DVD drives, birdview and a wider screen?

Fantastic stuff.

Also fitting the 6FL option as well - the car has Bluetooth and voice Control and therefore should have the required high module in the boot with the USB port on it. I suspect this is another simple 'code and it will' work job?

[gizlaroc]

The LCI business nav gets 2D maps, pre lci is just arrows.

You need to buy a retotrofit harness for adding usb, around £220, this comes with everything needed.