Why are ice cream vans old?
Why are ice cream vans old?
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Somewhatfoolish

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5,084 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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Sounds a bit daft maybe... but when you see an ice cream van, chances are it's D reg or similar...

Is this because old vans are made into ice cream vans, or is it that there are health and safety/vehicle regs that prevent newer vehicles from being made into them... and if the latter, what's going to happen in 10 years' time!

Blakeatron

2,566 posts

203 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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A friend has 2 ice cream vans, both are elderly (unsure of specifics sorry!) but they both cost him a small fortune!

And both were sorry states when he bought them, amazing what paint, bleech and stickers can do!

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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I guess if old ones work fine, there's no need to replace them

You can't go and buy a new one and just pitch up somewhere, as you'll be in someone else's 'patch', and probably get kneecapped within a week.

blank

3,765 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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They keep them running because they're very expensive to buy.

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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Plus, considering the way most vans are driven they don't really rack up mega mileage, since they're only used for 4 months a year.

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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I always presumed they were probably vans bought 2nd hand for a couple of grand, then converted to an ice cream van. I can't think i've ever seen a brand new ice cream van.

Is it actually possible to make a living from selling ice cream, or are they a 2nd job for most sellers?

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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mnkiboy said:
I always presumed they were probably vans bought 2nd hand for a couple of grand, then converted to an ice cream van. I can't think i've ever seen a brand new ice cream van.

Is it actually possible to make a living from selling ice cream, or are they a 2nd job for most sellers?
Many of them dont just sell Ice Cream wink



And the old van


mnkiboy

4,409 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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Well there's tonight's nightmare.

South tdf

1,828 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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There are new vans but these tend to be static at shows as they are the profitable pitches. The number of new vans converted every year is decline as is the industry as a whole so to save money older vans are kept going.

I doubt there are many people who want to be paying off a £40k plus vehicle without a very good pitch or event presence so the ones you see “doing the rounds”.


Steamer

14,184 posts

243 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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Good point - never really thought about it until now.

I like our local one, he plays the music to Dad's army, the shufflers love it!

I just guessed they were old because it can't be a very high profit income, unless you are doing big shows... I may well be wrong!

Just found this old smoker... 4 grand!!?! Its a V-reg. I was thinking more like £400 and throw in a few Mivi's and Funnyfeet:



just incase you are thinking of setting up:

http://www.cateringclassifieds.com/details.php?id=...

homerjay

1,249 posts

255 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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when my dad was selling his 07 s4, a guy whose sole job was selling icecream wanted to buy it for cash (circa 25k)

but then changed his mind and bought a q7 instead.

he had a pitch outside old trafford, reckoned he could bring in 4k every match, rain or shine.

i wonder how much of that went to the tax man???

Edited by homerjay on Sunday 4th July 21:48

MilleniumFalcon

469 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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I had the exact same thought last month, after passing our local guy.

Next day i saw one on a 09 plate! Made me unfeasably happy, for some reason!

volvos60s60

581 posts

244 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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I believe it's the ice cream making machine that is incredibly expensive, not the van itself.

BTW, in the old vans, the operator always has to stoop, causing long term back problems - newer models have more headroom allowing the operator to stand up straight. My BIL had a 50% share in one some years ago so I know a bit about them - used to do country shows & make £3K/day on a hot sunny one, but the pitches are very expensive, which is why many resort to doing the rounds - & you have to deal with all these 'orible spotty kids all day trying to take the pi**

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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The do very few miles in a year, my cousin used to run one, he would do approx 3000 miles in a typical year so little point in replacing it every few years, his i think was 23 years old, he said when it needed modernising he just replaced the machines inside as that was what made him the money. Also a typical patch at a big show can cost up to £5k for a 2-3 days so making money instead of paying finance is the main aim.

Dyl

1,303 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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The ice cream van that does the rounds here is a 10-plate Merc...may explain why a small 99 costs nearly £2 though frown

dilbert

7,741 posts

261 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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I know where you can be certain to find a modern Ice Cream Van....

Air shows!

Don't ask me why.... But I've seen em!
hehe

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

252 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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blank said:
They keep them running because they're very expensive to buy.
A bit like old camper vans, you can pay a fortune for what is, a knackerd old van.

Rossay

122 posts

198 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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My cousin has 6 ice cream vans all over Glasgow, The oldest is a V reg LDV thing. You do get newer ones, they are just a bit more expensive.

Newer ones are usually from traders and tax comes into it which puts alot off of buying them.

The most recent 3 that he bought were brand new and cost a fair bit to buy and then pay the coach builder to convert..The most recent was a 10 plate Transit. The cost for the machines etc is alot aswell but to buy a vehicle thats ready for work have higher premiums i.e Car transporters, fruit vans, converted motorhomes.

I had to drive it for one Saturday night in a dodgy area in Glasgow..Was an experience to say the least..But thats another story.

109 Bob

3,762 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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We've got an overly attractive east European girl that drives the one round near me, she does a roaring trade & you can see all the guys queuing up as soon as they hear the ding dongs three streets away. hehe

Edited by 109 Bob on Monday 5th July 00:14

Rollcage

11,345 posts

222 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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109 Bob said:
We've got an overly attractive east European girl that drives the one round near me, she does a roaring trade & you can see all the guys queuing up as soon as they here the ding dongs three streets away. hehe
Aye, iks the same with the sandwich vans round here. Often driven by rather attractive women.



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