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ctsdave

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872 posts

203 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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Hi all,

Just to let you know that Brands is on Motors TV (Sky 413) Wenesday 7 July 6pm. Unsure when the repeats are though. Hopefully they won't be too harsh about my handling issues lol...

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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I've set my Sky +
You may get some good coverage as you was all over the place wink

You seem to be handling it quite well though when I was behind you, took me a good few laps to get past, as you pip me on the rolling start for a change wink

Need to get my starting sorted. bit to chicken on coldish tyres, but better than going off, about a 1/3 of the grid was on the grass on the 1st corner at Snetterton.

Edited by TVRleigh_BBWR on Tuesday 6th July 11:36

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Yeah Im not convinced that rolling starts are any safer.. you tend to enter the first corner much faster with cold tyres, and if anything goes wrong off the line your going much faster, just look on you tube for some big gt accidents recently, or even ANdy Neate's start line crash at the britcar the other year.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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I think the only advantage they have, is if someone stalls on the line, they could end up with someone up there rear quite quickly esp if there are faster cars behind that qualify problems and hence a poor time, or DNF on 1st race.
The other problem with rolling starts esp at the back the grid can get out of position, I know I gotten the wrong end of position every time.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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yeah but then your talking 50 -60 mph into something, on a rolling start your looking at 100mph plus, and you tend to get a pinball effect...

ctsdave

Original Poster:

872 posts

203 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Leigh the car wasn't really handling very well when we were battling - I was opposite locking along the start finish as the rear was moving around!!yikes I'm looking forward to Rockingham though with a (hopefully) sorted car!!

I agree that standing starts are better though! smile

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Graham said:
Yeah Im not convinced that rolling starts are any safer.. you tend to enter the first corner much faster with cold tyres, and if anything goes wrong off the line your going much faster, just look on you tube for some big gt accidents recently, or even ANdy Neate's start line crash at the britcar the other year.
Andy Neates accident was so serious because the circuit configuration allowed the car to come back across the track after its first impact with the wall, to be hit a second time. That can't happen with the new Silverstone layout. It was also incredibly unfortunate that he hit the one section of wall that was at an angle (the vehicle access road), otherwise even with the old configuration, he may not have come back across the track.

Starts are always fraught with difficulty as its the time you have the most cars in the smallest area of the track.

Personally I prefer everyone moving at broadly the same speed compared to the risk of someone near the front stalling and being hit by someone from near the back who won't have seen him. Or, in the case of an F3 race at Oulton, being driven over by the Safety Vehicle

Rolling starts are also significantly kinder to the car (clutch, gearbox, diff, driveshafts), and you don't have that dreadful delay with the car overheating whilst you wait for all cars to take up position after the green flag lap.

At the end of the day its what you become used to.

(As an aside, unless you hire a bit of runway, you also never get an opportunity to practice standing starts. I remember doing one in 2005 when I had a Mosler immediately in front of me and V8s (including a Nicholson McLaren engined thing) all round. Its normal not to be able to hear your own revs so you set them using the guage and hold them by feel of the vibrations through the seat. In this case all I could hear or feel was the sodding great 7 litre throbbing away in the car in front. Shook my whole car. As an even further aside, on that one all of us avoided a part of the track that had cement dust down from an earlier oil spill.... except Darren Dowling who charged round everyone and into second).

Sorry, reminiscing....as you were

grumpy bear

634 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Just to let you know that the Brands Images are now up on www.clickmotorsport.com

Mal

ctsdave

Original Poster:

872 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Great pics as ever Mal!

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Very Nice Mal.

Keithyboy

1,940 posts

299 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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grumpy bear said:
Just to let you know that the Brands Images are now up on www.clickmotorsport.com

Mal
Outstanding pics guys clapbiggrin

Edited by Keithyboy on Thursday 15th July 14:27

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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1st race now on http://www.raceandrallyuk.tv/ for those that did not see it on TV.