wheel refub needed (no powder coating)
wheel refub needed (no powder coating)
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anonymous-user

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77 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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i need my track wheels re done, they cannot be poweder coated as it melts, anyone know of a good wheel place that paints them properly in edinburgh or glasgow ?

tuscan_thunder

1,763 posts

269 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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why does powder coating melt on your wheels?


scotty_d

6,795 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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I would have thought paint would have the same melting point more or less as powder coating.

Simons in Irvine are good at painting wheels.

James B

1,363 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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I've no idea where you got the idea that powdercoating will melt. I run powdercoat on all my track wheels and even when my brakes have been so hot that they've disintegrated the wheels have remained fine.

Admittedly, it's not sensible to have the wheels in white powdercoat as it will discolour but otherwise it's the best coating i've found.

Infact, I even had the cam cover powdercoated on my RS2000 4x4 and it never had any issues.

Cheers

James

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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what i was told buy tea, dynamics and speedline

irodger

1,143 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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lordf said:
what i was told buy tea, dynamics and speedline
Are you using carbon ceramic discs that may catch on fire?!!!

I've used three different places over the years and http://www.wheelservices.co.uk/index.html are the company I settled on. They do the best job, for the best price and give the best customer service. They have moved now (based in Coatbridge) so I'm not sure if they still have the ability to keep your car securely or if they require the wheels on their own, but they used to even have a stock of popular steel wheels if you required to use your car while the wheels were done!

I was told by a mate from Drivers (Glasgow) that most alloy wheel shops in the area sent their trade in wheels here for refurbs.

Really good company, IMO.


993AL

1,939 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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irodger said:
lordf said:
what i was told buy tea, dynamics and speedline
Are you using carbon ceramic discs that may catch on fire?!!!

I've used three different places over the years and http://www.wheelservices.co.uk/index.html are the company I settled on. They do the best job, for the best price and give the best customer service. They have moved now (based in Coatbridge) so I'm not sure if they still have the ability to keep your car securely or if they require the wheels on their own, but they used to even have a stock of popular steel wheels if you required to use your car while the wheels were done!

I was told by a mate from Drivers (Glasgow) that most alloy wheel shops in the area sent their trade in wheels here for refurbs.

Really good company, IMO.
I’ve used this company once and wouldn’t use them again, the paint job on my wheels was terrible, on the visible outer of the wheels was patchy and like a ploughed park on the wheel inner and they even painted the surface that goes against the hub, this surface shouldn’t be painted. I complained about the wheels and they offered to re-re-furb them but I was selling the car and didn't have the time to do them again. I rarely moan about peoples work but this job was just so bad.

anonymous-user

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77 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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i think a chum used them too and they ruined his supperleggeras buy painting the inner hub too, as when i went to re fit his wheels i couldnt get the spigot ring back in

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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irodger said:
lordf said:
what i was told buy tea, dynamics and speedline
Are you using carbon ceramic discs that may catch on fire?!!!
i dont use full cermaics yet but ive baked the powder coat two sets of wheels so far and that was on the road

irodger

1,143 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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lordf said:
irodger said:
lordf said:
what i was told buy tea, dynamics and speedline
Are you using carbon ceramic discs that may catch on fire?!!!
i dont use full cermaics yet but ive baked the powder coat two sets of wheels so far and that was on the road
Wow! I thought that would be the only way any heat damage could occur. Every day's a school day...

Do you think its to do with the heat transfer from the brakes via the hub to wheels? If so would there be any way of preventing this? Or could it be the spokes or rims are too close to the calipers for a particular choice of wheel?

I can only go on my experience with Wheel Services, which have been excellent, but if you've heard diferently then I understand your sceptisism in using them.

Did Team Dynamics say to have them sprayed or did they recommend another method? What about some form of anodising? Not sure on what would be required of the type of alloy used for the wheels though.

993AL

1,939 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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irodger said:
I can only go on my experience with Wheel Services
Agreed.

Off topic a bit - you mentioned Drivers of Glasgow earlier and perhaps you already know they've gone bust, their stock is part of an unreserved auction on Thursday (preview tomorrow) here http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/drivers.asp might be of use to the OP.



Edited by 993AL on Wednesday 7th July 15:27

irodger

1,143 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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993AL said:
irodger said:
I can only go on my experience with Wheel Services
Agreed.

Off topic a bit - you mentioned Drivers of Glasgow earlier and perhaps you already know they've gone bust, their stock is part of an unreserved auction on Thursday (preview tomorrow) here http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/drivers.asp might be of use to the OP.



Edited by 993AL on Wednesday 7th July 15:27
No, I didn't realise they had gone bust! I've not been in for a long time, they always seemed to get a lot of business from the financially better-off people of Glasgow, so with the world's financial climate the way it is maybe they lost their core customer?

Sorry for continuing the off topic-ness....

Are the wheels in question normal alloys, or are they forged, split-rim, magnesium or such like?

Andrew[MG]

3,348 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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993AL said:
irodger said:
I can only go on my experience with Wheel Services
Agreed.

Off topic a bit - you mentioned Drivers of Glasgow earlier and perhaps you already know they've gone bust, their stock is part of an unreserved auction on Thursday (preview tomorrow) here http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/drivers.asp might be of use to the OP.



Edited by 993AL on Wednesday 7th July 15:27
Did anyone go and get a bargain?

VetteG

3,236 posts

267 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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Give JRM Coachworks in Roseburn a call.

G

marshal_alan

432 posts

201 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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paul at car wizard, he is mobile and can pick up your wheels are re-furb them. also does all smart repairs. really good job and a pleasant chap. he is based in larbert http://www.carwizard.ltd.uk/

rickyw

32 posts

197 months

Monday 12th July 2010
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993AL said:
irodger said:
lordf said:
what i was told buy tea, dynamics and speedline
Are you using carbon ceramic discs that may catch on fire?!!!

I've used three different places over the years and http://www.wheelservices.co.uk/index.html are the company I settled on. They do the best job, for the best price and give the best customer service. They have moved now (based in Coatbridge) so I'm not sure if they still have the ability to keep your car securely or if they require the wheels on their own, but they used to even have a stock of popular steel wheels if you required to use your car while the wheels were done!

I was told by a mate from Drivers (Glasgow) that most alloy wheel shops in the area sent their trade in wheels here for refurbs.

Really good company, IMO.
I’ve used this company once and wouldn’t use them again, the paint job on my wheels was terrible, on the visible outer of the wheels was patchy and like a ploughed park on the wheel inner and they even painted the surface that goes against the hub, this surface shouldn’t be painted. I complained about the wheels and they offered to re-re-furb them but I was selling the car and didn't have the time to do them again. I rarely moan about peoples work but this job was just so bad.
I would stay clear. I used them a few years back to refurb 2 Citroen alloys. Within a week the paint started to flake off. I went back, but was given a very unfriendly welcome. Not being a confrontational person, I just cut my losses and left it.

Alarm bells should have rung before I gave them the work as I quizzed them on exactly what would be done & they were very vague.

X7LDA

940 posts

227 months

Monday 12th July 2010
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a few of the lotus guys cant powdercoat as the forged alloy gets brittle during the baking process.

amccan10

589 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th July 2010
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Powdercoating if done correctly should be a much more durable finish than wet painting. If you get the wheels wet painted you may find that the paint starts to chip and flake at a later date when the tyres are being changed.

Have a look at ace in Carnwath (I know its out in the sticks but they do a good job and will be worth the extra journey)

http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/ContactUs.html

Hope this helps

Andy

HAB

3,632 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th July 2010
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Henderson metal cleaning - They use a 2 pack painting process for wheels. I had mine done 3 years ago, and they still look like new.

Shyte website but excellent work.

http://www.hendersonsmetalcleaning.co.uk/index.htm

irodger

1,143 posts

241 months

Tuesday 13th July 2010
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amccan10 said:
Powdercoating if done correctly should be a much more durable finish than wet painting. If you get the wheels wet painted you may find that the paint starts to chip and flake at a later date when the tyres are being changed.

Have a look at ace in Carnwath (I know its out in the sticks but they do a good job and will be worth the extra journey)

http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/ContactUs.html

Hope this helps

Andy
This was one of the places I tried with my old AMG Mono IIs. Ihad to get hold of spare wheels to use while they were in and when I went to collect them the finish was terrible wih more craters than the moon and a few cracks. When I said I wasn't happy with them the guy who ran the 'shop told me it was the usual powder coating finish and it was to do with the heat of the oven.

I ended up with a slight discount as told him I'd seen powder coated wheels before and the finish had been perfect. To be honest the chap was really quite a sound guy, but I didn't think I should have had to pay for them as I then went to Wheel Services and had them totally redone, to an excellent standard. But with so many people having bad results with them, I'm dubious about using them again frown