Subsidised lease cars for public sector workers

[scoobykev15]

One of my neighbours mentioned the other day that he was getting a new mini diesel for less than a hundred quid a month via some scheme his employees ( the NHS )have concocted. I know people above a certain wage scale at our local council (sunderland) receive this perk and quite frankly, it boils my piss. I,ve been self employed for 25 years and paid every last penny for my cars on my own.How the hell can public bodies justify this?

[Sheets Tabuer]

*waits for the blame the disabled mob*

[Deva Link]

scoobykev15 said:

One of my neighbours mentioned the other day that he was getting a new mini diesel for less than a hundred quid a month via some scheme his employees ( the NHS )have concocted. I know people above a certain wage scale at our local council (sunderland) receive this perk and quite frankly, it boils my piss. I,ve been self employed for 25 years and paid every last penny for my cars on my own.How the hell can public bodies justify this?

He must need it for his job - an essential car user.

A friend of my wife's is a community midwife and she gets one. Years ago they were completely free - all she paid was private petrol.

For someone on basic tax, a free Mini as a company car might be only costing them £35/mth in tax, so I'd be pised to have to pay £100/mth.

[Bill]

Deva Link said:

scoobykev15 said:

One of my neighbours mentioned the other day that he was getting a new mini diesel for less than a hundred quid a month via some scheme his employees ( the NHS )have concocted. I know people above a certain wage scale at our local council (sunderland) receive this perk and quite frankly, it boils my piss. I,ve been self employed for 25 years and paid every last penny for my cars on my own.How the hell can public bodies justify this?

He must need it for his job - an essential car user.

A friend of my wife's is a community midwife and she gets one. Years ago they were completely free - all she paid was private petrol.

For someone on basic tax, a free Mini as a company car might be only costing them £35/mth in tax, so I'd be pised to have to pay £100/mth.

Are you sure it's not a fleet purchase, with the discount coming from the manufacturer.

[neenaw]

I'd love to know which part of the NHS it is that's giving it's employee's these nice little perks.

The bit of the NHS I work in, we regularly work without the correct equipment we need as they don't have any and claim they can't afford it! They're that tight in my part of the firm that they won't even run the cycle2work scheme as it'll cost them money!

[scoobykev15]

no,my immediate neighbour is getting a similar deal on a megane and she is a nurse in an A&E department so it loks as though its across the board.

[Tsippy]

I assume that as there's enough money to pay for this, I'll be seeing a reduction in taxes eh?

[ralphrj]

It could be through the Civil Service Motoring Association (CSMA) which is a motoring club.

If so the lease is not subsidised by the tax payer but is simply using Lloyds TSB CarSelect to obtain discounted prices from the car manufacturers.

[scoobykev15]

I will bare my arse in harrods window if this is,nt funded by the taxpayer

[Bill]

musclecarmad said:

i really value the work nurses do but it's ridiculous the perks the nhs staff get

And what are they?

[anonymous-user]

I'll probably get flamed for this but 'perks' are what make or break a job! If they are getting a Mini for £100pcm then good for them. It's hardly going to be a Cooper S so why the jealousy.

I appreciate that some people don't get such perks however if your self employed and depending on how good your accountant is then you can also have 'perks' that salaried people will never have.

Just because they are public sector workers does not mean they should be doomed to st prospects with little 'perks'.

Edit : Burgers

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 8th July 17:06

[fido]

Bill said:

musclecarmad said:

i really value the work nurses do but it's ridiculous the perks the nhs staff get

And what are they?

Nice new company cars for their 75-mile daily round trip to the (non-)job.

[jonnylayze]

musclecarmad said:

yeah it's disgusting.

if she wants a mini she should pay for it

i really value the work nurses do but it's ridiculous the perks the nhs staff get

you're right - most people go into nursing and work long hours for pitiful pay just because of the perks....

as someone else said, most self-employed people are able to 'massage' the tax system so that disproportionate burden falls upon those who pay tax via PAYE.

[Dupont666]

fido said:

Bill said:

musclecarmad said:

i really value the work nurses do but it's ridiculous the perks the nhs staff get

And what are they?

Nice new company cars for their 75-mile daily round trip to the (non-)job.

Not certain but my mother doesnt get any perks and she is a Radiographer in the NHS... what perks other than the microsoft discount is there?

[emicen]

My local BMW dealer is advertising the One D brand new for under £100 a month.

[scoobykev15]

In reply to shaid gtb,i am not jealous,i am merely pointing to the public money lining someones pockets again.If the fkers worked sixty hours a week like i do,then yes,they might deserve a perk like this.Why should people like me subsidise other peoples motoring?

[fido]

Dupont666 said:

Not certain but my mother doesnt get any perks and she is a Radiographer in the NHS... what perks other than the microsoft discount is there?

I don't think non-management staff get such perks. I'd only wish that specialist staff e.g. Radiographers did have access to company cars.

Edited by fido on Thursday 8th July 17:10

[Deva Link]

Dupont666 said:

fido said:

Bill said:

musclecarmad said:

i really value the work nurses do but it's ridiculous the perks the nhs staff get

And what are they?

Nice new company cars for their 75-mile daily round trip to the (non-)job.

Not certain but my mother doesnt get any perks and she is a Radiographer in the NHS... what perks other than the microsoft discount is there?

In thick people's heads there are loads of benefits. They read about them in the Daily Mail.

I imagine the schemes are all pretty standard, here's one: http://www.sath.nhs.uk/Library/Documents/HR/Polici...

You get a lease car is that's cheaper than paying mileage allowance. Your average hospital Nurse does not get mileage allowance so the scheme is irrelevant to them.

[anonymous-user]

scoobykev15 said:

In reply to shaid gtb,i am not jealous,i am merely pointing to the public money lining someones pockets again.If the fkers worked sixty hours a week like i do,then yes,they might deserve a perk like this.Why should people like me subsidise other peoples motoring?

Didn't mean to offend chap but i really don't see what the fuss is about. Many of the 'fkers' will work long hours and even though you may think that they sit at work in an office doing zilch, reality is that there could be a lot of mental stress being applied there.

If they have some sort of perk where they get a car for little money then it really isn't such a big deal. Remember it's a cycle, they get a discounted car meaning someone somewhere is making a sale and hence the knock on effect and economy goes round and people keep employed. By people being employed it means more poeple can spend at yourt shop.

Yes you work very hard at 60 hours a week running your shop however you also possibly have an accountant who can 'advise' you on how to keep the profit figure low and the expenses figure high.

Edit: Fries

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 8th July 17:18

[FunkyGibbon]

neenaw said:

They're that tight in my part of the firm that they won't even run the cycle2work scheme as it'll cost them money!

To be fair, this may well be due to the on-going legal issues with salary sacrifice schemes connected with maternity claims and benefit in kind. Many Local Authorities have placed an embargo on new schemes starting.

got 95% of the way to setting such a scheme up to be told by the LA that they would not allow it Grrrr