Mk1 Eunos AirCon needs a service

[HereBeMonsters]

I've taken it to four different garages, and none of them can do it. "The gas in these is ancient mate, you need a specialist."
My search for a specialist who can do it has returned nil results. Mazda dealers can't do it, AutoLink can't do it, two local "aircon specialists" can't do it.

I'm pretty sure it just needs new gas. It blows air at me which is ever so fractionally colder than standard blowers, and the belts and pump were changed just before I bought the car.

Any ideas? Can I do it myself with one of those cans from Halfords?

[Don Phil]

If its pre '94 (i think) then it uses an ancient type of gas that they dont make any more as it damages the environment when you dispose of it (once again, i think...) which is why everywhere cant do it i assume.

I'm sort of in the same boat, its a bit colder than regular air, but not really refreshing enough to actually have on!

As for what to do to get it done, i have no idea if it can be or not, but i'd like to know too!

[MX7]

Your car probably uses R12, which you can't use anymore. The problem, as I understand it, is that the new R134 attacks the seals of the older systems.

There are alternatives like this,

http://www.freeze12.com/

but I have no idea how good they are.

[HereBeMonsters]

MX7 said:

Your car probably uses R12,

Yeah, I think that's what the dealer said it was. If I were to "accidentally" let it escape, would they be able to refill it?

[MX7]

No, I don't think so. Your system wasn't made for the newer R134, and I think they use different rate compressors. Even if they did charge it, your seals would perish quite quickly I believe.

I've had a quick look and there are R12 substitutes, like this.

http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm

Also, a few companies sell RS24 as a direct replacement, which I hadn't heard of until today. A few years back a friend went through the same thing, and we ended up taking out his A/C.

Edit: http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/forums/p/6909/35702.a...

Have you got a yellow sticker?

Edited by MX7 on Saturday 10th July 17:04

Edit2: Where abouts are you in the UK? There do seem to be some companies offering RS24 replacement services.

Edited by MX7 on Saturday 10th July 17:30

[HereBeMonsters]

MX7 said:

No, I don't think so. Your system wasn't made for the newer R134, and I think they use different rate compressors. Even if they did charge it, your seals would perish quite quickly I believe.

I've had a quick look and there are R12 substitutes, like this.

http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm

Also, a few companies sell RS24 as a direct replacement, which I hadn't heard of until today. A few years back a friend went through the same thing, and we ended up taking out his A/C.

Edit: http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/forums/p/6909/35702.a...

Have you got a yellow sticker?

Edited by MX7 on Saturday 10th July 17:04

Edit2: Where abouts are you in the UK? There do seem to be some companies offering RS24 replacement services.

Edited by MX7 on Saturday 10th July 17:30

[HereBeMonsters]

MX7 said:

No, I don't think so. Your system wasn't made for the newer R134, and I think they use different rate compressors. Even if they did charge it, your seals would perish quite quickly I believe.

I've had a quick look and there are R12 substitutes, like this.

http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm

Also, a few companies sell RS24 as a direct replacement, which I hadn't heard of until today. A few years back a friend went through the same thing, and we ended up taking out his A/C.

Edit: http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/forums/p/6909/35702.a...

Have you got a yellow sticker?

Edited by MX7 on Saturday 10th July 17:04

No yellow sticker, it's a 1991 Eunos. I'm in Southampton, so Reading isn't too far. Might investigate that link, thanks very much.

(unless you mean my PH sticker, which I just changed to a yellow one today. )



Edit2: Where abouts are you in the UK? There do seem to be some companies offering RS24 replacement services.

Edited by MX7 on Saturday 10th July 17:30

[MX7]

http://www.poolecool.co.uk/

Closer?

[HereBeMonsters]

MX7 said:

http://www.poolecool.co.uk/

Closer?

That sounds brilliant mate, and they're mobile as well. Could be just the ticket, many thanks!

[bluetone]

HereBeMonsters said:

If I were to "accidentally" let it escape

Please don't do this; hydrofluorocarbons are up to 22,000 more effective than CO2 as greenhouse gases.

[MX7]

HereBeMonsters said:

MX7 said:

http://www.poolecool.co.uk/

Closer?

That sounds brilliant mate, and they're mobile as well. Could be just the ticket, many thanks!

From what I've read, RS24 is a much better refrigerant than the original R12.

Good luck with it.

[trace1967]

Reading this post made me realise why my car 1993 has not got aircon in anymore, just pipes left behind the engine.