When going around a corner do you A:Look, B:Sound the horn?
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In my little village, at the end of my road is a 90 degree bend - there's a house on that corner called, imaginatively, corner cottage.
What I and about 99% of cars, vans, bikes, etc do is slow down, swing wide and have look to see what's coming. I've done it, I've seen people do it and it works - on those occasions where there's a car coming, you either squeeze past, or you reverse a bit, give a jaunty wave, and drive on.
What the local chav/moron element do (the cars that I see do this include a 3 series driven by a sidewayz cap wearing chav freakshow, a Corsa with one "Recaro" and a rather suspect looking Civic) is head to this bend at about a gazillion miles an hour, not quite slow down, blast the horn and go round the corner - usually narrowly missing children, horses, other cars, etc...
It's not hard is it - slow, look, carry on - not beep your f
king horn and nearly cause an accident. It's in the feckin' highway code - you tard!
/End of poor rant.
What I and about 99% of cars, vans, bikes, etc do is slow down, swing wide and have look to see what's coming. I've done it, I've seen people do it and it works - on those occasions where there's a car coming, you either squeeze past, or you reverse a bit, give a jaunty wave, and drive on.
What the local chav/moron element do (the cars that I see do this include a 3 series driven by a sidewayz cap wearing chav freakshow, a Corsa with one "Recaro" and a rather suspect looking Civic) is head to this bend at about a gazillion miles an hour, not quite slow down, blast the horn and go round the corner - usually narrowly missing children, horses, other cars, etc...
It's not hard is it - slow, look, carry on - not beep your f
king horn and nearly cause an accident. It's in the feckin' highway code - you tard!/End of poor rant.
5678 said:
With the exception of the speed maintained through/round the corner, beeping is common practice for most country folk.
Trying to look round a 90 degree bend which has a 6-8ft high hedge and is only 1 car wide doesn't really work.
It's in the village and the normal task is to slow and look - there's plenty of room, in this case, to do so - swinging wide and looking works pretty well - even the bin lorry slows and looks.Trying to look round a 90 degree bend which has a 6-8ft high hedge and is only 1 car wide doesn't really work.
I have, however, driven through areas where the 8 foot hedge gets in the way.
A and B for me.
If you can't see around a corner you should approach slowly enough to stop in the (very short) distance you can see to be clear. I also consider sounding the horn briefly and listen out for the sound of a horn.
Sounding the horn and thinking "that's ok, then, Shields are Up" and blasting around the corner incapable of stopping is an absolute no-no. It will cause an accident eventually...
If you can't see around a corner you should approach slowly enough to stop in the (very short) distance you can see to be clear. I also consider sounding the horn briefly and listen out for the sound of a horn.
Sounding the horn and thinking "that's ok, then, Shields are Up" and blasting around the corner incapable of stopping is an absolute no-no. It will cause an accident eventually...
Don said:
A and B for me.
If you can't see around a corner you should approach slowly enough to stop in the (very short) distance you can see to be clear. I also consider sounding the horn briefly and listen out for the sound of a horn.
Sounding the horn and thinking "that's ok, then, Shields are Up" and blasting around the corner incapable of stopping is an absolute no-no. It will cause an accident eventually...
It's the "not slowing down bit" that's the issue here - if they slowed, they'd be able to see - instead, they're just stupid about it.If you can't see around a corner you should approach slowly enough to stop in the (very short) distance you can see to be clear. I also consider sounding the horn briefly and listen out for the sound of a horn.
Sounding the horn and thinking "that's ok, then, Shields are Up" and blasting around the corner incapable of stopping is an absolute no-no. It will cause an accident eventually...
Agreed it sounds like the local chavs are being a bit antisocial by beeping but hooning as well, this should only be done as a last resort in my mind, it's easier to lose a bit of speed first.
Where I live there is a junction from the cul de sac onto a more major road. Locals will park right upto the junction or even overhang it, even with a double yellow line on the road. Coupled with morons driving along the road at around 30mph, with cars parked on both sides, and often pedestrians mincing about in the road, this is a bit of a nightmare. When I want to emerge from the cul de sac but someone has parked close to the junction, I will creep out and look, with windows down (the old RoSPA tip, when in town windows down), but I will hoot if there is zero visibility when I am creeping out, and am feeling nervoous that I wouldn't be able to react in time if someone is coming fast, or they couldn't react in time.
Where I live there is a junction from the cul de sac onto a more major road. Locals will park right upto the junction or even overhang it, even with a double yellow line on the road. Coupled with morons driving along the road at around 30mph, with cars parked on both sides, and often pedestrians mincing about in the road, this is a bit of a nightmare. When I want to emerge from the cul de sac but someone has parked close to the junction, I will creep out and look, with windows down (the old RoSPA tip, when in town windows down), but I will hoot if there is zero visibility when I am creeping out, and am feeling nervoous that I wouldn't be able to react in time if someone is coming fast, or they couldn't react in time.
There's a road on my way to work that's got no lane markings, although 95% of it is easily wide enough for two cars to pass with plenty of room.
As this is quite a popular commuting route, in the mornings and evenings there's plenty of traffic along here going at a steady 30-40mph with no issues.
At the weekends, of course, the morons come out. Such as the driver in the BMW who I encountered as I came round a corner, driving along a good four feet from the edge of the road. One might think that given the sight of my black pimpmobile bearing down on him, he might have considered occupying a more suitable location on the road, but of course not, he instead decides to stop dead and sit on the horn.
(To give you an idea of how wide the road is, I was still able to drive past him without needing to significantly slow down).
As this is quite a popular commuting route, in the mornings and evenings there's plenty of traffic along here going at a steady 30-40mph with no issues.
At the weekends, of course, the morons come out. Such as the driver in the BMW who I encountered as I came round a corner, driving along a good four feet from the edge of the road. One might think that given the sight of my black pimpmobile bearing down on him, he might have considered occupying a more suitable location on the road, but of course not, he instead decides to stop dead and sit on the horn.
(To give you an idea of how wide the road is, I was still able to drive past him without needing to significantly slow down).
Driving through lanes I will tap the horn on any bend that has very poor visability, I'll also be crawling along and tucked as close to the hedge as possible.
I drive through one village on the way home from work and do purposefully give a proper blast of the horn (I'm still crawling along). Reason being some lazy git with a driveway can't be arsed to park his 5 series estate on it (it is steep and an awkwark enterance) and instead parks right on the outside of the bend before his house. This forces you fully on to the wrong side of the road going round a tight totally blind bend. I sound my horn here for two reason, 1st to give warning to those coming the otherway I'm coming through as even if they were going very slow they'd still have a good chance of hitting me and 2nd to try an ps off the owner of the car enough that he see's sense and starts parking his car elsewhere - like on his drive.
I drive through one village on the way home from work and do purposefully give a proper blast of the horn (I'm still crawling along). Reason being some lazy git with a driveway can't be arsed to park his 5 series estate on it (it is steep and an awkwark enterance) and instead parks right on the outside of the bend before his house. This forces you fully on to the wrong side of the road going round a tight totally blind bend. I sound my horn here for two reason, 1st to give warning to those coming the otherway I'm coming through as even if they were going very slow they'd still have a good chance of hitting me and 2nd to try an p
s off the owner of the car enough that he see's sense and starts parking his car elsewhere - like on his drive.Sometimes at night, I find that quickly turning off your headlights for a sharp second will let you know if there is a car around the bend as you can see their lights shining on the hedge/wall etc ... Just hope they don't do the same thing ha! Is this a sensible thing to do? Always seems to tell me if the road is free or not.
I tend to agree with the OP.
I wouldn't sound the horn in a built-up area, unless I could see a hazard or had previous experience.
However, I can see how the former might lead to the latter.
The lessening of speed is always the better option imo, as I experienced several times at the weekend whilst driving some lovely lanes in Hants/Dorset
I wouldn't sound the horn in a built-up area, unless I could see a hazard or had previous experience.
However, I can see how the former might lead to the latter.
The lessening of speed is always the better option imo, as I experienced several times at the weekend whilst driving some lovely lanes in Hants/Dorset
impmo said:
Sometimes at night, I find that quickly turning off your headlights for a sharp second will let you know if there is a car around the bend as you can see their lights shining on the hedge/wall etc ... Just hope they don't do the same thing ha! Is this a sensible thing to do? Always seems to tell me if the road is free or not.
If you can't do this while your lights are still on, I wouldn't turn off yours just to get that ability - you'll have virtually no night vision in the instant you do it, and that could be the instant that something/someone steps out in front of you. Keeping an eye out for lights is what I tend to do when driving at night though - it hasn't failed me yet.Meoricin said:
impmo said:
Sometimes at night, I find that quickly turning off your headlights for a sharp second will let you know if there is a car around the bend as you can see their lights shining on the hedge/wall etc ... Just hope they don't do the same thing ha! Is this a sensible thing to do? Always seems to tell me if the road is free or not.
If you can't do this while your lights are still on, I wouldn't turn off yours just to get that ability - you'll have virtually no night vision in the instant you do it, and that could be the instant that something/someone steps out in front of you. Keeping an eye out for lights is what I tend to do when driving at night though - it hasn't failed me yet.It sounds like you are just slating the younger drivers for doing the correct thing to be honest!
Sounding the horn is exactly what they should be doing, though I would take a wide line around the corner as well.
just to confirm. You are wrong, so get off your high horse about young so called 'chav' drivers, and maybe do an advanced driving course, because it sounds like you need it.
edit: oh and you should try reading the f*cking highway code, which you obviously haven't done since you passed your test which by the way you drive sounds like the 50's.
Sounding the horn is exactly what they should be doing, though I would take a wide line around the corner as well.
just to confirm. You are wrong, so get off your high horse about young so called 'chav' drivers, and maybe do an advanced driving course, because it sounds like you need it.
edit: oh and you should try reading the f*cking highway code, which you obviously haven't done since you passed your test which by the way you drive sounds like the 50's.
- *also show us the road on google street view so we can judge if it needs a horn blast or not***
Edited by cmackay81 on Tuesday 13th July 09:46
cmackay81 said:
It sounds like you are just slating the younger drivers for doing the correct thing to be honest!
Sounding the horn is exactly what they should be doing, though I would take a wide line around the corner as well.
just to confirm. You are wrong, so get off your high horse about young so called 'chav' drivers, and maybe do an advanced driving course, because it sounds like you need it.
edit: oh and you should try reading the f*cking highway code, which you obviously haven't done since you passed your test which by the way you drive sounds like the 50's.
Try reading the bit in the original post about them sounding the horn and not slowing down before you gallop off on your own high horse Sounding the horn is exactly what they should be doing, though I would take a wide line around the corner as well.
just to confirm. You are wrong, so get off your high horse about young so called 'chav' drivers, and maybe do an advanced driving course, because it sounds like you need it.
edit: oh and you should try reading the f*cking highway code, which you obviously haven't done since you passed your test which by the way you drive sounds like the 50's.
- *also show us the road on google street view so we can judge if it needs a horn blast or not***
Edited by cmackay81 on Tuesday 13th July 09:46
cmackay81 said:
It sounds like you are just slating the younger drivers for doing the correct thing to be honest!
Sounding the horn is exactly what they should be doing, though I would take a wide line around the corner as well.
just to confirm. You are wrong, so get off your high horse about young so called 'chav' drivers, and maybe do an advanced driving course, because it sounds like you need it.
edit: oh and you should try reading the f*cking highway code, which you obviously haven't done since you passed your test which by the way you drive sounds like the 50's.
Oh, and you should try reading what I fSounding the horn is exactly what they should be doing, though I would take a wide line around the corner as well.
just to confirm. You are wrong, so get off your high horse about young so called 'chav' drivers, and maybe do an advanced driving course, because it sounds like you need it.
edit: oh and you should try reading the f*cking highway code, which you obviously haven't done since you passed your test which by the way you drive sounds like the 50's.
- *also show us the road on google street view so we can judge if it needs a horn blast or not***
king typed above - the corner is one that can, very easily, be negotiatied with care and attention. It is not so blind that, without swinging wide, you can see what may or may not be coming around the corner.I'm not slating the younger drivers, but in this case it's the yoofs that tank it up to the corner, don't slow down, blast the horn and expect the other car, that they won't have seen, to take the evasive action. You show me where it is stated in the highway code that this is what you're supposed to do.
In addition to this, my driving style is not the subject at hand, which you would be unable to comment upon as you A:Do not know me, B: haven't witnessed it, C:I wasn't born in the 50's, D:Is not the issue and E:Is none of your concern. Unless of course you are stalking me*.
And no, I won't post up a google map of the junction as that'd be akin to me telling you where I live - in this case, I fear that * above may happen.
You 'tard.
impmo said:
Sometimes at night, I find that quickly turning off your headlights for a sharp second will let you know if there is a car around the bend as you can see their lights shining on the hedge/wall etc ... Just hope they don't do the same thing ha! Is this a sensible thing to do? Always seems to tell me if the road is free or not.
Bad idea. Flash your main beam on and off instead - oncoming drivers should be able to see the variation in light level.James
I was just trying to see how angry you got over something very small. Think I have got an idea of your personality type though. My suggestion is that when you drive, you should be more relaxed, let other people do what they do, and just make sure you are driving in a way that keeps you out of their paths.
For that corner, it would appear to me that driving around slowly would suffice, I would save using the horn to tighter turns or more country roads tbh, though it is quite hard to tell from just an overhead map. At a guess, once people start noticing others using the horn at one point, they will think that is what they should do.
Just be thankful people are at least using the horn and not just blasting around anyway.
I was just trying to see how angry you got over something very small. Think I have got an idea of your personality type though. My suggestion is that when you drive, you should be more relaxed, let other people do what they do, and just make sure you are driving in a way that keeps you out of their paths.
For that corner, it would appear to me that driving around slowly would suffice, I would save using the horn to tighter turns or more country roads tbh, though it is quite hard to tell from just an overhead map. At a guess, once people start noticing others using the horn at one point, they will think that is what they should do.
Just be thankful people are at least using the horn and not just blasting around anyway.
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