Citroën AX GTI?

[Somnophore]

What are your thoughts on these, know they're be a bit rough now but 1.4 100bhp in a 720Kg car sounds good.

Few £hundred might be worth a punt

[petrolsniffer]

Apprently the gt is a better car.

I'm sure the gti is still fun though.

[rallycross]

Its a bit late now but yes they were good. I used a GT in rallycross for a few events and it was a great little car, just lacked a bit of power v's the 205's.

People reckoned the Gti version was no quicker for competion use (ie stock spec) due to the extra weight.

[Somnophore]

Why's that then? Think they are only 85bhp but were bit lighter or something

[MrMoonyMan]

GT was quicker lower down but the GTi was quicker flat out.

Had a black GT for a bit - huge fun.

[zollburgers]

I test drove a GT when I was 18 but didn't buy it as the pedals were too close together. I was hitting the brake and the accelerator at the same time.

[Adz The Rat]

Seriously, you wouldnt want to crash one.

[dalos260]

zollburgers said:

I test drove a GT when I was 18 but didn't buy it as the pedals were too close together. I was hitting the brake and the accelerator at the same time.

I agree completely there; my feet aren't that big, and I was hitting two pedals at the same time. I also found the pedal box was off to the left too.

Edited by dalos260 on Wednesday 14th July 22:51

[pilchardthecat]

Adz The Rat said:

Seriously, you wouldnt want to crash one.

Same could be said of every other small car of the same era, and quite a few of the larger ones.

They are a hoot.

[Adz The Rat]

pilchardthecat said:

Adz The Rat said:

Seriously, you wouldnt want to crash one.

Same could be said of every other small car of the same era, and quite a few of the larger ones.

They are a hoot.

Yea I suppose so.

A friend used to have one with a breathed on engine in it, it was pretty fast from what I remember.
Never see them about anymore.

[lunchbox]

dalos260 said:

zollburgers said:

I test drove a GT when I was 18 but didn't buy it as the pedals were too close together. I was hitting the brake and the accelerator at the same time.

I agree completely there; my feet aren't that big, and I was hitting two pedals at the same time. I also found the pedal box was off to the left too.

Edited by dalos260 on Wednesday 14th July 22:51

I've never found it a problem with my size 10 feet. I guess everyone is different. I admit they are close but you quickly get used to it. I actually kinda like them being close, gives it a more 'racey' feel.

Used to track an Ax GTi, it's not a fantastic performer but the steering feedback was brilliant and was great fun to really drive it hard. Engine is good for about 7800rpm and loves to rev. Always thought it was one of those cars which is "more than the sum of its parts".

[Somnophore]

When reading up on the ax found out that they made a 1.4NA diesel that held the mpg record until the Lupo 3l beat it, 100mpg. Pretty good if you just wanted a cheap shopping car

[hotmelt]

Great car, but if you do not mind oncoming traffic.

[Mr Dave]

I lined up beside one at a "private race track with traffic lights" waited till it went green and it buggered off very very quickly, suprising as it looked like they had 4 rugby props in their car.

That is where I learned Saxo VTR and VTS engines go in very easily. Also power to weight.

Buy one, they are good looking cars and getting rare.

[Somnophore]

Yeah that would be mental, a VTS conversion would give it a power to weight of around 150bhp/ton which would be pretty cool. Be a real sleeper for sure

[Vidal Baboon]

I've had two, absolute hoot. I crashed one quite heavily when I was 18- I ended up dukes of hazzard style barrel rolling over a hedge and skidding down the road on the roof.
Held up quite well, I always assumed it would fold in a crash.

Anyway, the GTis have the nicer interior IMO and some had 4 stud wheels, which may make a wheel swap a lot easier.
I don't remember them being any quicker than the GTs either.

[Negative Creep]

Somnophore said:

Yeah that would be mental, a VTS conversion would give it a power to weight of around 150bhp/ton which would be pretty cool. Be a real sleeper for sure

Do it. My VTR engined GT500 is the only car I've owned that I genuinely miss

[Dimski]

Wasn't it the same engine as the Pug 205 XS?

If I'm remembering correctly, it was quicker than the Pug... I guessing (slightly) lighter.

ETA - That would be the GT, rather than the GTI...

Edited by Dimski on Thursday 15th July 08:11

[missing the VR6]

A mate had one about 10/11 years ago seem to remember it being a laugh, but I was in the passenger seat.

[exgtt]

From memory the GT had a aluminium block and the GTI had a cast iron block which accounted for the weight increase. A GT with a VTS engine would be mental!