RBR Exhaust......WOW!!
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Having heard Redbulls ridiculously loud party piece last weekend at Silverstone, I can honestly say, the phenomenal noise produced is noticeably different compared to its rivals! Basicly, its higher pitch, assuming theres more gas flow, but ultimately, it sounds far powerfull!!
To me, they all sound relatively the same on the television, but my god, to witness the lungs of the RB6 in person is something else! Especially when both pass synchronized at full throttle, as i experienced in P3 viewing from Maggots, bit harsh on the eardrums, the plugs went straight in!
Any similar thoughts??
To me, they all sound relatively the same on the television, but my god, to witness the lungs of the RB6 in person is something else! Especially when both pass synchronized at full throttle, as i experienced in P3 viewing from Maggots, bit harsh on the eardrums, the plugs went straight in!
Any similar thoughts??
Park'O said:
FourWheelDrift said:
They've taken the catalytic converters out and welded in straight pipes. It's a common mod to do 
What about the MOT 
Mind you, someone has taken exception to them already, there is Red Bull all over the cars!
Park'O said:
Basicly, its higher pitch, assuming theres more gas flow, but ultimately, it sounds far powerfull!!
Don't know what the mod is, but McLaren had something similar in 1995/6 I think. The exhaust note was rediculously high pitched at high revs. The noise was very distinctive.I have tried to find some footage of the cars at that time, on youtube, but no joy.
caduceus said:
Park'O said:
Basicly, its higher pitch, assuming theres more gas flow, but ultimately, it sounds far powerfull!!
Don't know what the mod is, but McLaren had something similar in 1995/6 I think. The exhaust note was rediculously high pitched at high revs. The noise was very distinctive.I have tried to find some footage of the cars at that time, on youtube, but no joy.
I was shocked by how different the engines sounded from one another when I went to my first GP. It's a shame that TV audio can't capture that. I also remember I felt the engines just as much as I heard them. It was the 2000 Indy race. The Minardi Fondmental had a deep, almost guttural sound. Then there was a group that was very similar, and then there was the Ilmor engine in the back of the Mclaren. The engine sounded higher pitched. It would rev to what sounded like it's redline, and then it would continue to rev and take on an even higher pitch. I'm not sure what caused the different sound. I guess I assumed it was just revving higher than the others. I think 2000 was a Beryllium year.
It's good to know that the engines still have distinctive sounds. I was afraid the switch to the 2.4l and the engine freeze might've made things more monotonous.
It's good to know that the engines still have distinctive sounds. I was afraid the switch to the 2.4l and the engine freeze might've made things more monotonous.
35secToNuvolari said:
I was shocked by how different the engines sounded from one another when I went to my first GP. It's a shame that TV audio can't capture that. I also remember I felt the engines just as much as I heard them. It was the 2000 Indy race. The Minardi Fondmental had a deep, almost guttural sound. Then there was a group that was very similar, and then there was the Ilmor engine in the back of the Mclaren. The engine sounded higher pitched. It would rev to what sounded like it's redline, and then it would continue to rev and take on an even higher pitch. I'm not sure what caused the different sound. I guess I assumed it was just revving higher than the others. I think 2000 was a Beryllium year.
It's good to know that the engines still have distinctive sounds. I was afraid the switch to the 2.4l and the engine freeze might've made things more monotonous.
It is a shame that TV does not capture the real sound of motorsport. There are a few clips on youtube that sound much more like the real thing. Makes me wonder why it does sound so different on normal footage.It's good to know that the engines still have distinctive sounds. I was afraid the switch to the 2.4l and the engine freeze might've made things more monotonous.
I'll never forget 2004, walking into Silverstone near Bridge and although I couldnt see the cars, I could hear them, the noise was like nothing I had expected, even though I'd not missed a race on tv in 11 years.
My ears were full, the gearchanges could be felt in my lungs and I ran like a child up the little bank to the fence to catch my first glimpse of an F1 car running in anger.
I was 23 going on 5
My ears were full, the gearchanges could be felt in my lungs and I ran like a child up the little bank to the fence to catch my first glimpse of an F1 car running in anger.
I was 23 going on 5
John D. said:
It is a shame that TV does not capture the real sound of motorsport. There are a few clips on youtube that sound much more like the real thing. Makes me wonder why it does sound so different on normal footage.
Microphones and TV speakers aren't quite up to human aural standards. I remember going to the Champ Cars race here when I was 17. The vibrations in the air could actually be felt on my skin, it was both exciting and frightening.
Edited by Jungles on Tuesday 20th July 11:29
munroman said:
Park'O said:
FourWheelDrift said:
They've taken the catalytic converters out and welded in straight pipes. It's a common mod to do
What about the MOT Mind you, someone has taken exception to them already, there is Red Bull all over the cars!
Cant believe no one has got this yet
Edited by bighoody on Tuesday 20th July 14:48
Yes... that W O W factor ... I miss it!
Exhaust pipe technology marches on... to my ears, none of the cars and particularly the motor cycles competing in GP racing in recent years sound as good as those with tuned seperate megaphones as in the 195-60-70s. Here's what I mean ~ be patient ~ the sounds I have in mind start around the 40 secs mark...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWy1vY6nN-M
The samller Honda F1 ( 1500cc ) engines revved high and GP Bikes ( 50 cc and 125 cc multi-cylindered ~ revved up to 25,000 rpm back in the mid-1960s.
They truly were Mega phones ... phenominal sounds to my ears ....
Exhaust pipe technology marches on... to my ears, none of the cars and particularly the motor cycles competing in GP racing in recent years sound as good as those with tuned seperate megaphones as in the 195-60-70s. Here's what I mean ~ be patient ~ the sounds I have in mind start around the 40 secs mark...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWy1vY6nN-M
The samller Honda F1 ( 1500cc ) engines revved high and GP Bikes ( 50 cc and 125 cc multi-cylindered ~ revved up to 25,000 rpm back in the mid-1960s.
They truly were Mega phones ... phenominal sounds to my ears ....
35secToNuvolari said:
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It's good to know that the engines still have distinctive sounds. ...
To be honest, I'm not sure they do. Certainly not in the way they did in the era you mention.It's good to know that the engines still have distinctive sounds. ...
I also remember when Ferrari ran the last of their V12s (when others had, I think, gone to V10s). The V12s sounded epic.
Was at Silverstone and didn't particularly notice the RBs sounding that different. I did notice that the cars were nowhere near as nice sounding as in previous years, and that organ trembling vibration had gone. Maybe I've just gone deaf!
Murph7355 said:
I also remember when Ferrari ran the last of their V12s (when others had, I think, gone to V10s). The V12s sounded epic.
1995 Ferrari 412 T2 , one of the best looking and sounding F1 cars on the last 25 years.Off the line at the Goodwood Festival of Speed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edTUKkdlPsk
Montreal 1995 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwmvVWSvSpg
Alesi on-board at Suzuka qualifying - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2ZudHWIUw
Berger at Monaco (gratuitous) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qitCCq5Mc
on a similar but slightly different note, I remember when the Renault V10s were winning championships with Alonso, they had a distinct smell, even when other cars were going through, without looking, you could tell when a Renault went past. Did anyone else notice this? I am not crazy BTW
Murph7355 said:
Was at Silverstone and didn't particularly notice the RBs sounding that different. I did notice that the cars were nowhere near as nice sounding as in previous years, and that organ trembling vibration had gone. Maybe I've just gone deaf!
They year before the V8 engines were introduced, I went to watch the testing at Silverstone and McLaren had a test mule running the new engine alongside the then current V10. The V8 was still brutally loud, but had a thinner sound than the V10, and it was quite easy to tell the difference.What was also interesting was the difference in how the traction control systems worked - It was very obvious when operating and most of the cars just sounded like the engine was running rough when accelerating out of the corner (like this), but a few like the Jordans had a very wierd digital sounding effect, as though it were switching very quickly between discrete steps instead of being continuously variable. It's something that I never heard on the TV coverage though, so don't know if it was something being tested or that was how they normally sounded.
Edited by tank slapper on Friday 23 July 12:06
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