Holy c**p! - Pilot Ejects From CF 18 Jet Fighter
Holy c**p! - Pilot Ejects From CF 18 Jet Fighter
Author
Discussion

Carsie

Original Poster:

940 posts

227 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
Talk about quick reflexes - was this going into a flat spin? I notice that afterwards the engines still appear to be running in all the flames (pulsing?)

Lucky, lucky man. Did you notice the Bee Gee's background music?

Strewth!

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Pilot+survives+fi...

Someone else has commented later " Looking at picture #3 you see the flare from the port engine. At first I thought it was caused by the impact. But if you look at pic #1 you see the port nozzle open and starboard clamped down tight. He was definitely working an issue. Makes you wonder if he sucked in a bird at low speed like the MiG in Paris"

Edited by Carsie on Saturday 24th July 13:26


Edited by Carsie on Saturday 24th July 13:27

Defcon5

6,459 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
What was the pilot doing in the first place?

croyde

25,544 posts

253 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
That'll ruin his NCB.


williamp

20,111 posts

296 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
Defcon5 said:
What was the pilot doing in the first place?
.

I Think he was going ballistic, man....

davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
Doing that thing where he balances the plane on the engine thrust I reckon. I guess if one of the engines died doing that it would result in what happened.

tegwin

1,682 posts

229 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
Simply slipping off the "bubble" of thrust would cause that to happen.... airspeed is so low that you simply couldnt recover....

davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
tegwin said:
Simply slipping off the "bubble" of thrust would cause that to happen.... airspeed is so low that you simply couldnt recover....
Surely there was enough time there to run the throttles up enough to escape if that happened though?

croyde

25,544 posts

253 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
I'm no flyer but I'd imagine that time to full thrust vs gravity taking over was too long.

Conian

8,030 posts

224 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
plus the plane was tilting towards the crowd, adding thrust would have sent him over/into the people and even if he didnt crash he'd have toasted a few people.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
It looks to me very much like a loss of Directional Stability at high Alpha (AoA) caused by a failure of the starboard engine - the port engine was quite obviously in 'burner. The fact that the starboard nozzle is closed down would indicate that the burner had failed to light.

XG332

3,927 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
The ejection looks very scary. Looks very harsh.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
XG332 said:
The ejection looks very scary. Looks very harsh.
Low level unplanned, "oh ste I have to pull the handle", ejections are always rather nasty. Look at the way the pilot's head has rolled onto his chest - indicative of a non pre-determined bang out. Aside from any compression fractures he may have, I'll bet a pound to a pinch of salt he has a very sore kneck and probably bruising to his face from the oxygen mask.

He probably looks like death warmed up just now (and feels it!). I wish him well for a speedy recovery.

NSXKeith

190 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
quotequote all
Not sure what the original cause was, but that aircraft stalled; classic knock-on effect in most aircraft being the drop of a wing just after the stall point.

That’s always the danger with the high alpha (angle of attack) passes where the aircraft wing is angled back to the point where it is only just generating enough lift to keep the aircraft flying. Any loss in power could be catastrophic during that manoeuvre. He could have lost power in either of the engines (possibly the right hand one which could have contributed to so much right hand roll before it hit the ground). However, looking at it again, I get the horrible feeling that he over-cooked the angle and/or put too aggressive roll and yaw inputs just before the stall, thus stalling it himself.

Hope the guy is ok.

kiteless

12,370 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all
I must admit that when the aircraft passes the speaker in the clip, my first thought was the extreme angle of attack attitude looked.......erm.......extreme.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

285 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all


Awesome shot. Looking at the nozzles the right seems to be at ENC (or equivalent) while left is fully open, possibly explaining the yaw to the right....

XG332

3,927 posts

211 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all
Why was there no bang on the video from the explosion?

Eric Mc

124,788 posts

288 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all
Because it may not have been an explosion in the normal sense, just an eruption of flame from the burst of released fuel.

When I saw the MiG 29s crash at Fairford, there was no bang as such, just a dull thud as the nearest MiG slammed into teh ground. It sounded like someone slamming a car door.
The one that crashed further away made no sound at all - so distance must be a factor too.

scarebus

858 posts

194 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all
Shame, he nearly made the runway...

AnotherClarkey

3,698 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all
NSXKeith said:
Not sure what the original cause was, but that aircraft stalled; classic knock-on effect in most aircraft being the drop of a wing just after the stall point.

That’s always the danger with the high alpha (angle of attack) passes where the aircraft wing is angled back to the point where it is only just generating enough lift to keep the aircraft flying. Any loss in power could be catastrophic during that manoeuvre. He could have lost power in either of the engines (possibly the right hand one which could have contributed to so much right hand roll before it hit the ground). However, looking at it again, I get the horrible feeling that he over-cooked the angle and/or put too aggressive roll and yaw inputs just before the stall, thus stalling it himself.

Hope the guy is ok.
From my laymans perspective would not the departure from straight flight have been much quicker if the RH wing had stalled?

agric

367 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
quotequote all
Just how low is it possible to survive a bail out?