Terrorism in London
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VTEC_DOHC

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2,459 posts

274 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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The government say that a terrorist attack in London is inevitable. I reckon that's utter bo**ox.

What does everyone else think?

dick dastardly

8,326 posts

292 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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unfortunately it's only a matter of time

Bodo

12,596 posts

295 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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Red Ken's already there

Mr E

23,051 posts

288 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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I think they haven't got a clue, and so are just assuming the worst.

tvrgaas

1,483 posts

299 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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VTEC_DOHC said:
terrorist attack in London


IRA: Hyde Park, Regents Park, City, Docklands, BBC....
Anti Israeli Embassy attacks.
Lebonese Embassy.
Guy poisoned with the umbrella.
Network Rail: Clapham, Paddington.... (still dead!)

OT Should we not have bombed New York for their support of the IRA in the 1980s?

greg_d

6,542 posts

275 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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I think that MI5 have done a sterling job because we haven't, as yet, been done over.

I agree, that it is only a matter of time until we get bombed.

Scary really

Greg

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

313 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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I think London is too obvious a target, hence likely terrorist actively is likley to centre around other high profile targets first of all - Channel Tunnel is one possible.

Draft

286 posts

272 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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tvrgaas said:


VTEC_DOHC said:
terrorist attack in London




IRA: Hyde Park, Regents Park, City, Docklands, BBC....
Anti Israeli Embassy attacks.
Lebonese Embassy.
Guy poisoned with the umbrella.
Network Rail: Clapham, Paddington.... (still dead!)

OT Should we not have bombed New York for their support of the IRA in the 1980s?



My thoughts exactly - are we suddenly discounting the years of terrorism that we have endured due to the IRA??? WTF is going on?? Is it only Terrorism when USA say so or worse still when it involves them??

>> Edited by Draft on Friday 19th March 16:36

swilly

9,699 posts

303 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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London wont get bombed because all the terrorist groups are based here, undercover of refugee/asylum status, and do their fund raising here.

You dont shit in your own backyard do you?

MilnerR

8,273 posts

287 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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I get the train from Oxford road Manchester everyday, and the station has had a heavy police presence for the past week (not transport police but Man Met plod). Has anyone else noticed this at other stations? Do they know something we don't, or is it precautionary? Can't see it stopping me from traveling but it is a bit of a worry when there are 6 or 8 BiB at a station as small as Oxford road

Its only a matter of time before a UK city is hit

YarisSi

1,538 posts

273 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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Keep hearing about how we habour "interesting" individuals in England so this may actually be helping us out.

pmanson

13,388 posts

282 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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Nicholas Blair said:
Channel Tunnel is one possible.




A lorry load of explosives would bring down the tunnel no problem. One lorry in each tunnel would be devestating.

Just think of the damage the fire they had a couple of years ago caused. A lorry load of semtex would bring the whole thing down.

li'l pugs

1,323 posts

288 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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pmanson said:

Nicholas Blair said:
Channel Tunnel is one possible.





A lorry load of explosives would bring down the tunnel no problem. One lorry in each tunnel would be devestating.

Just think of the damage the fire they had a couple of years ago caused. A lorry load of semtex would bring the whole thing down.


Think Nuclear......Sellafield would be a prime target, just think of what all that sh1t would do in the Irish Sea.......Not just the UK, but Ireland too !!

HiAsAKite

2,552 posts

276 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Matter of time... and if I was them I would have saved the big one up for the UK....

desipte the best job our police and security do for us (for which I am very grateful) they cannot protect us against everything....

margo

533 posts

270 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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I honestly can't see the point in the debate. If we are to let terrorists dictate our actions, beyond due caution, then we have let them win.

We've been hit before, we'll be hit again. If the Madrid bombing is Al-Qaeda then, in some respects, we need worry slightly less than before IMO. Devastating and tragic though it was this is not the kind of attack against which there is no defence, nor is it wildly outside the scale or nature of anything we have seen in the past.

margo

533 posts

270 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Draft said:
Is it only Terrorism when USA say so or worse still when it involves them??

Yes. Or rather, it's only worth considering when the terrorists are not white. The sense of relief when the Spanish government announced that ETA had carried out the attack (wrongly, it seems) was palpable and, IMO, sickening.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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margo said:

Draft said:
Is it only Terrorism when USA say so or worse still when it involves them??


Yes. Or rather, it's only worth considering when the terrorists are not white. The sense of relief when the Spanish government announced that ETA had carried out the attack (wrongly, it seems) was palpable and, IMO, sickening.



And got them promptly (and rightly IMO) booted out of office......

MoJo.

wedg1e

27,035 posts

294 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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li'l pugs said:






Think Nuclear......Sellafield would be a prime target, just think of what all that sh1t would do in the Irish Sea.......Not just the UK, but Ireland too !!




You've obviously not been near a nuclear installation then. I get to a couple of places legitimately, with my job: I have security clearance, family were vetted, the full bit. Yet when I turn up they treat me like a criminal, and I'm there for their benefit. Don't even look sideways at the security crew. In fact, you'd be surprised at exactly who ARE the security crew. I've seen innocuous-looking vans with guns in them that would put a smile on Schwarzenegger's face.
A couple of places have armed Police at the gates: they are only there for show. The real firepower is watching you, and you won't know it. It would be easier to get a shag with the Queen than light a fart in Sellafield (for example).

Ian

peterpeter

6,438 posts

286 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Mojocvh said:

margo said:


Draft said:
Is it only Terrorism when USA say so or worse still when it involves them??



Yes. Or rather, it's only worth considering when the terrorists are not white. The sense of relief when the Spanish government announced that ETA had carried out the attack (wrongly, it seems) was palpable and, IMO, sickening.



blimey, we agree on something



And got them promptly (and rightly IMO) booted out of office......

MoJo.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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wedg1e said:

li'l pugs said:






Think Nuclear......Sellafield would be a prime target, just think of what all that sh1t would do in the Irish Sea.......Not just the UK, but Ireland too !!





You've obviously not been near a nuclear installation then. I get to a couple of places legitimately, with my job: I have security clearance, family were vetted, the full bit. Yet when I turn up they treat me like a criminal, and I'm there for their benefit. Don't even look sideways at the security crew. In fact, you'd be surprised at exactly who ARE the security crew. I've seen innocuous-looking vans with guns in them that would put a smile on Schwarzenegger's face.
A couple of places have armed Police at the gates: they are only there for show. The real firepower is watching you, and you won't know it. It would be easier to get a shag with the Queen than light a fart in Sellafield (for example).

Ian