Scammers moving on to PayPal?
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Just got this in response to a gumtree ad for my old man's car. I'm satisfied it's a scam, but is it possible to do that through PP, or would the miscreant just ask to change the payment method to a rubber bankdraft at the last minute? It's all rather confusing given that I was asking a few hundred quid for a spares car.
blatant scammer said:
Hi,
Thanks for the prompt response.. I am ready to buying it now as a for birthday
gift for brother in-law. I am at sea at the moment as I am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone call making and visiting of website are restricted but I just have to squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want the car to be a surprise package for brother in-law so I wont let him know anything about the car until it gets delivered to him, I am sure he will be more than happy with the car. I insisted on PayPal as my mode of payment because I don't have access to my bank account online and also, I don't have internet banking, but I can pay from my PayPal account. I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account, so I will need you to give me your PayPal email address and your final price so I can make the payments asap for the car and please if you don't have a PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.co.uk and get it set up, after you have set it up I will only need the e-mail address you use for the registration with PayPal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the car up after I have made the payments for the car...
My Regards.
Thanks for the prompt response.. I am ready to buying it now as a for birthday
gift for brother in-law. I am at sea at the moment as I am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone call making and visiting of website are restricted but I just have to squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want the car to be a surprise package for brother in-law so I wont let him know anything about the car until it gets delivered to him, I am sure he will be more than happy with the car. I insisted on PayPal as my mode of payment because I don't have access to my bank account online and also, I don't have internet banking, but I can pay from my PayPal account. I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account, so I will need you to give me your PayPal email address and your final price so I can make the payments asap for the car and please if you don't have a PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.co.uk and get it set up, after you have set it up I will only need the e-mail address you use for the registration with PayPal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the car up after I have made the payments for the car...
My Regards.
Scam.
Avoid.
As with most scams it's just a generic email in poor English that doesn't ask anything about what you are selling. They will just send loads of these emails out to car sellers and wait for some mug to take it seriously. Unless you really think someone wouldn't ask a thing about a spares car and buy it as a birthday present for someone?
No doubt they will pay with a phished or bogus paypal account and leave you high and dry when paypal reclaim the money off you later on or try and hijack your own paypal account buy sending a phishing email asking to confirm your password for the transaction.
Avoid.
As with most scams it's just a generic email in poor English that doesn't ask anything about what you are selling. They will just send loads of these emails out to car sellers and wait for some mug to take it seriously. Unless you really think someone wouldn't ask a thing about a spares car and buy it as a birthday present for someone?
No doubt they will pay with a phished or bogus paypal account and leave you high and dry when paypal reclaim the money off you later on or try and hijack your own paypal account buy sending a phishing email asking to confirm your password for the transaction.
Outside of EBay your payments will NOT be protected in the same way. If he pays his money and it is from a dodgy bank account then PayPal will want the money back from you.
If you go and clear it in your account all they will do is request it right back again and, if you close the PayPal account so that they can not do this, then the next thing will be a letter from them demanding payment before they send the baliffs round.
Don't trust PayPal anyway, but outside of EBay, its even worse.
If you go and clear it in your account all they will do is request it right back again and, if you close the PayPal account so that they can not do this, then the next thing will be a letter from them demanding payment before they send the baliffs round.
Don't trust PayPal anyway, but outside of EBay, its even worse.
ymwoods said:
Outside of EBay your payments will NOT be protected in the same way. If he pays his money and it is from a dodgy bank account then PayPal will want the money back from you.
If you go and clear it in your account all they will do is request it right back again and, if you close the PayPal account so that they can not do this, then the next thing will be a letter from them demanding payment before they send the baliffs round.
Don't trust PayPal anyway, but outside of EBay, its even worse.
I thought the only way to get eBay protection was to use PayPal as PayPal is owned by eBay?If you go and clear it in your account all they will do is request it right back again and, if you close the PayPal account so that they can not do this, then the next thing will be a letter from them demanding payment before they send the baliffs round.
Don't trust PayPal anyway, but outside of EBay, its even worse.
Still a scam though!
ctdctd said:
ymwoods said:
Outside of EBay your payments will NOT be protected in the same way. If he pays his money and it is from a dodgy bank account then PayPal will want the money back from you.
If you go and clear it in your account all they will do is request it right back again and, if you close the PayPal account so that they can not do this, then the next thing will be a letter from them demanding payment before they send the baliffs round.
Don't trust PayPal anyway, but outside of EBay, its even worse.
I thought the only way to get eBay protection was to use PayPal as PayPal is owned by eBay?If you go and clear it in your account all they will do is request it right back again and, if you close the PayPal account so that they can not do this, then the next thing will be a letter from them demanding payment before they send the baliffs round.
Don't trust PayPal anyway, but outside of EBay, its even worse.
Still a scam though!
But a lot of people think that it is because PayPal is safe from fraud because they used EBay and saw this guarentee and money protection if they use PayPal. So they then use it outside of EBay where they get none of the same protection.
Even within Ebay you are not covered.I sold a raymond weil watch for a mate a few years ago.£2500 was transferred to my paypal account and my mate went to meet the lad and drop off the watch.Luckily the lad never turned up,and the next day my paypal account was frozen.Turned out it was a stolen paypal account from somebody in america.It took months to sort out with very unhelpful ebay/paypal staff.But if the watch had been handed over I wouldnt have been able to get the money back.If you do ever sell anything by paypal do not release it until the funds have cleared into your own bank account not just your paypal account.
Dr.Doofenshmirtz said:
You are only protected if you deliver goods by recorded, signed for, on-line trackable delivery.
So, in theory - if you sent the car to the buyer by recoreded delivery you could possibly be protected - and the scammer scammed.
But I bought the iPad from you, signed for it and when I opened the parcel it was an old potato. I'm complaining to Paypal. So, in theory - if you sent the car to the buyer by recoreded delivery you could possibly be protected - and the scammer scammed.
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