BBC 2 "deadliest crash" on now
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y2blade

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Sunday 25th July 2010
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anyone else watching this? bloody awful, I'd not heard of this accident at the 1955 LeMans

The Nur

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208 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
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It really is humbling. I have heard the word decapitated far more times than I was expecting to

y2blade

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238 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
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The Nur said:
It really is humbling. I have heard the word decapitated far more times than I was expecting to
83 killed & 120 injured eek

sidgolf

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213 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
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i knew of this accident for years,but never knew of the horrific details.

elster

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233 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
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The Nur said:
It really is humbling. I have heard the word decapitated far more times than I was expecting to
yes

A lot of great drivers in that race too.

big dub

4,081 posts

240 months

Sunday 25th July 2010
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Been watching this from the start, what a horrific crash, so many people decapitated from the car debris.

y2blade

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Sunday 25th July 2010
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big dub said:
Been watching this from the start, what a horrific crash, so many people decapitated from the car debris.
men, women and children too



Eric Mc

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288 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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y2blade said:
anyone else watching this? bloody awful, I'd not heard of this accident at the 1955 LeMans
I'm amazed you hadn't heard of it.

It was the worst motor racing accident ever and had a profound effect on the sport. It led to the banning of racing in Switzerland.
It also probably denied Moss his best opportunity of winning Le Mans.

SeeFive

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256 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Also, something that was mentioned in the program is that they are still not sure how many perished in the accident. That provides some insight into the carnage that those poor folks suffered.

Interesting program, terrible happening. The previously unreleased home video film and assembly of stills seemed to show some new insight into the positioning of the cars prior to the accident and driver accountability. I'm not so sure that Levagh deserved all of the blame.

A dreadful day for motor sport.

For those that missed it and are interested, the full broadcast is available online for the next 7 days at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00sfptx

Spiritual_Beggar

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217 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Caught this again last night.

Made me think though;


They said that a police report on the incident has STILL not been made public. Isn't it about time that this report was made public? Don't the people have a right to know the circumstances surrounding this horrific event?


And, it does strike me as being quite appauling that there is no memorial for those who lost their lives that day.

NiceCupOfTea

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274 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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It was rather humbling. Amazing seeing some of the racing footage though. 190 mph with not a thought to crash protection or safety. They must have had some balls.

daveparry

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223 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Just watched this and am truely amazed at the fact that there is niether monument or recognition of this terrible accident! Shame on the French authorities and Le Mans race circuit!

Eric Mc

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288 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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SeeFive said:
Also, something that was mentioned in the program is that they are still not sure how many perished in the accident. That provides some insight into the carnage that those poor folks suffered.

Interesting program, terrible happening. The previously unreleased home video film and assembly of stills seemed to show some new insight into the positioning of the cars prior to the accident and driver accountability. I'm not so sure that Levagh deserved all of the blame.

A dreadful day for motor sport.

For those that missed it and are interested, the full broadcast is available online for the next 7 days at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00sfptx
I doubt it was "home video" back in 1955 smile. 8mm cine film almost definitely. However, that head on footage was new to me and gave a much better view of what actually happened. Funilly enough, there is professional colour film of Maclin's car skidding to halt opposite the pits and Macklin hopping out pretty pronto. It was shown in the 1990 BBC series "The Power and the Glory" but wasn't included in this new documentary.

Rotary Madness

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209 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Well that was incredibly sobering frown

It also showed for me anyways, just how amazing, and dare I say sexy, racing was back then. Nothing like the noise and excitement these days unfortunatly.

Red Firecracker

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250 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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daveparry said:
Just watched this and am truely amazed at the fact that there is niether monument or recognition of this terrible accident! Shame on the French authorities and Le Mans race circuit!
There's an extremely modest memorial (some might say all the better for it) there and has been for quite a while;



(Pic from the Midweek Motorsport Listeners Collective)

skeggysteve

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240 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Red Firecracker said:
daveparry said:
Just watched this and am truely amazed at the fact that there is niether monument or recognition of this terrible accident! Shame on the French authorities and Le Mans race circuit!
There's an extremely modest memorial (some might say all the better for it) there and has been for quite a while;



(Pic from the Midweek Motorsport Listeners Collective)
RF, you beat me to it, I knew it had been put up on the collective but couldn't find it.

I think you are correct a small memorial like that speaks volumes.

SeeFive

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256 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Eric Mc said:
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I doubt it was "home video" back in 1955 smile. 8mm cine film almost definitely.
Indeed - but if I said "8mm cine film", most of the people younger than you and I on here would think I was talking about a crap film on at the local Astoria in txt spk.

PS was it Super 8 do you think? smile

durbster

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245 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I watched this a few months ago when it was first aired on BBC4. I actually thought it was a poor documentary and was surprised to see it had been elevated to BBC2.

To me it felt like it was produced or written by people who didn't really understand motorsport, who were more intent on having an angle (placing blame on Hawthorn), than putting forward the simple facts of the event.

They made out that certain events were unusual when they are in fact common to all racing, such as how the cars moved around on the track, and how the drivers reacted to the circumstances as they unfolded.

Eric Mc

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288 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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SeeFive said:
Eric Mc said:
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I doubt it was "home video" back in 1955 smile. 8mm cine film almost definitely.
Indeed - but if I said "8mm cine film", most of the people younger than you and I on here would think I was talking about a crap film on at the local Astoria in txt spk.

PS was it Super 8 do you think? smile
I think Super 8 came out in the 60s/70s.

SeeFive

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256 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Eric Mc said:
SeeFive said:
Eric Mc said:
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I doubt it was "home video" back in 1955 smile. 8mm cine film almost definitely.
Indeed - but if I said "8mm cine film", most of the people younger than you and I on here would think I was talking about a crap film on at the local Astoria in txt spk.

PS was it Super 8 do you think? smile
I think Super 8 came out in the 60s/70s.
Eric, you are such a font of knowledge, I should know better than to try to jape with you... thumbup