Alternative track cars.
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raf_gti

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Monday 26th July 2010
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I was thinking the other night but potential track cars for the future and rather than the usual MX5/205/328, I thought why not look at something a bit more unusual.



http://pistonheads.com/sales/1421518.htm

Strip it, cage it, track it.

Granted not most dynamic car but it would certainly be a bit different. Can be bought for almost throwaway money and would certainly be a hoot IMO smile

Edited by raf_gti on Monday 26th July 15:15


Edited by raf_gti on Monday 26th July 15:18

Don1

16,816 posts

238 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I do love that concept.

bikemonster

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271 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Heavy cars as an alternative for track cars?

Heavy on brakes, heavy on tyres, heavy on fuel. Hard to speed up, hard to slow down, hard to change direction.

While I like the look of that 8-series, it's for cantering across continents, not tear-assing around circuits.

There's a BMW 540i that I see from time to time at track days. It looks hugely entertaining, it appears to handle nicely and makes nice rumbly V8 noises. But the guy can't stay out on track too long because the brakes catch fire.

There's a reason why small, light and nimble cars are so popular for lappery.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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raf_gti said:
I was thinking the other night but potential track cars for the future and rather than the usual MX5/205/328, I thought why not look at something a bit more unusual.



http://pistonheads.com/sales/1421518.htm

Strip it, cage it, track it.

Granted not most dynamic car but it would certainly be a bit different. Can be bought for almost throwaway money and would certainly be a hoot IMO smile

Edited by raf_gti on Monday 26th July 15:15


Edited by raf_gti on Monday 26th July 15:18
While you can do anything to any car. That is big and heavy. I'm sure it can be made to go well on a track, lots of bigger heavier cars do. But if you are on a budget then tyres, breaks, bushes just about everything will wear faster and cost more to replace, including fuel.

Nice idea though biggrin

raf_gti

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Monday 26th July 2010
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bikemonster said:
Heavy cars as an alternative for track cars?

But the guy can't stay out on track too long because the brakes catch fire.
Sounds like fun biggrin

I'm under no illusion that it would be a 'track day weapon' but it could certainly be a good, if expensive laugh!

chevy-stu

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258 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Go for it.. anything rather than more 205's, Skylines, Golfs and 3-series cluttering up track days would be great... wink

raf_gti

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Monday 26th July 2010
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chevy-stu said:
Go for it.. anything rather than more 205's, Skylines, Golfs and 3-series cluttering up track days would be great... wink
This is purely a 'just for fun' thread although I really do like the idea of something completely different as a track car, I have enough trouble with SWMBO without suggesting a V12 BMW to drive around in a circle til the brakes catch fire!

slipstream 1985

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209 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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worst idea iv seen on piston heads. 5k is throwaway money? and another god knows how much to make it trackable and then keep it going? better oart of 15k id say and at that money theres loads of other options.

raf_gti

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Monday 26th July 2010
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slipstream 1985 said:
worst idea iv seen on piston heads. 5k is throwaway money? and another god knows how much to make it trackable and then keep it going? better oart of 15k id say and at that money theres loads of other options.
Of course there is smile

But this one is something a little bit different and whilst I couldn't afford 5k to throwaway I'm sure there are plenty of people who can.

CampDavid

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228 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Autobox. Great car but I couldn't be bothered heaving that round a track. £5k is also an awful lot for a car to track.

Running costs are the key. brakes and tyres will be obnoxious and you'll always worry about something going wrong. A VX220 will be so, so much cheaper to run/repair and give you far more smiles per mile.

For big bargy trackness an Omega or a 5 series is far better

Hitch78

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224 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I like the idea of looking for new options that are a little wacky but you'd have to strip everything including the paint to get the weight of that beauty down.

Other problem with big cars is they tend to be auto. No fun on a track.

belleair302

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237 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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BMW E 34 M5's...the 3.6L versions are pretty fun on track. No expensive suspension issues, good balance, rear wheel drive, fast and not expensive regarding parts....along with a good supply of specialists for engine work....make for a great alternative track day weapon.

A Nissan 300 ZX or a Toyota Supra would also make for fun times on a track.

braddo

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218 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Now this is a post where a big American barge might actually have a place!

Grab something like a V8 manual 80s/90s Camaro and then strip and prep for track. It will be a very rare sight on track days, you'll have a good V8 noise but most importantly it won't weigh 1700kg and cost a fortune to fix/maintain.

Actually, most importantly, you can then come on PH and tell everyone how well your American car handles winkbiggrin


MX7

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204 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I think it's a great idea, and would love to have a couple of laps in it, as long as it wasn't my car. I really like the 850 (unlike most BMWs), but I fear that each track day would cost silly money. Also, if you strip it, you'd get rid of that interior, which can only improve it.

covmutley

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220 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I was down at Llandow on Saturday watching and the bigger car just look so much heavier on engine and brakes. Some were quick, and no doubt fantastic fun, but the 7's/elises etc just look so much more nimble and must cost a fair bit less to track.

says the mx5 owner......

kambites

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251 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I think it would be quite entertaining to see how fast you can get something utterly unsuitable to go on the track. How about an old rear-engined Skoda?

braddo

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Monday 26th July 2010
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kambites said:
I think it would be quite entertaining to see how fast you can get something utterly unsuitable to go on the track. How about an old rear-engined Skoda?
PPC magazine's Rolls Royce always gives me a smile for this reason.

MX7

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Monday 26th July 2010
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kambites said:
I think it would be quite entertaining to see how fast you can get something utterly unsuitable to go on the track. How about an old rear-engined Skoda?
Plenty have taken blown Volvo 240s on the track. To be honest, once you've stripped out all the guts, lots of cars can start to make sense.

Justayellowbadge

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272 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Stripped out Ferrari Mondial.

Fetchez la vache

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Monday 26th July 2010
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kambites said:
I think it would be quite entertaining to see how fast you can get something utterly unsuitable to go on the track. How about an old rear-engined Skoda?
Always had a secret liking to those. One of my many vices... paperbag