White 458 - 12 HRO

[Stig]

Spotted this morning on the A404M following a 911. An HR Owen car perhaps?

Not bad looking in white it must be said.

[UH-Matt]

Yes this is HR Owens Demo car from St Albans showroom.

Been discussed/pictured in some of the 458 threads.

Edited by UH-Matt on Monday 2nd August 10:29

[ChrisFitz]

UH-Matt said:

Yes this is HR Owens Demo car from St Albans showroom.

Been discussed/pictured in some of the 458 threads.

Edited by UH-Matt on Monday 2nd August 10:29

How do they get away with that front no. plate?
Couldn't get much more illegal.

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ChrisFitz said:

UH-Matt said:

Yes this is HR Owens Demo car from St Albans showroom.

Been discussed/pictured in some of the 458 threads.

Edited by UH-Matt on Monday 2nd August 10:29

How do they get away with that front no. plate?
Couldn't get much more illegal.

Not sure how they get away with it, but when I last looked at it the standard plate was in the boot...

[Durzel]

They "get away with it" the same way all supercars that have plates like this do, i.e. they gamble that a) the Police won't care, b) won't be in a position to turn around and stop them, c) will understand why they haven't got one on the front (ruining looks, obstructing air intake - aka Police petrolheads) and/or d) don't care about £60 non-endorseable penalties because they're driving around in ~£170k cars.

[ChrisFitz]

Durzel said:

They "get away with it" the same way all supercars that have plates like this do, i.e. they gamble that a) the Police won't care, b) won't be in a position to turn around and stop them, c) will understand why they haven't got one on the front (ruining looks, obstructing air intake - aka Police petrolheads) and/or d) don't care about £60 non-endorseable penalties because they're driving around in ~£170k cars.

the "non-endorseable" being the key part I guess.

Don't the dvla have the authority to take the reg away though if you don't display it correctly?

[Durzel]

ChrisFitz said:

Durzel said:

They "get away with it" the same way all supercars that have plates like this do, i.e. they gamble that a) the Police won't care, b) won't be in a position to turn around and stop them, c) will understand why they haven't got one on the front (ruining looks, obstructing air intake - aka Police petrolheads) and/or d) don't care about £60 non-endorseable penalties because they're driving around in ~£170k cars.

the "non-endorseable" being the key part I guess.

Don't the dvla have the authority to take the reg away though if you don't display it correctly?

I believe they do yes, but to be honest I'd say you've probably got a couple of chances at being let off before that even becomes a realistic threat.

Quite honestly whilst I think it's bad in principal that it's one rule for them and one rule for us, I don't think the Police - especially the MET - probably give a crap about pulling over supercars for dodgy plates. I'm just speculating though.

[Stig]

UH-Matt said:

Yes this is HR Owens Demo car from St Albans showroom.

Been discussed/pictured in some of the 458 threads.

Edited by UH-Matt on Monday 2nd August 10:29

Doh - just realised that I saw the car at Goodwood FoS the other week too

[UH-Matt]

Is putting a normal spec number plate in the windscreen on the dash rather than on the bumper acceptable generally?

[CraigW]

look at all the UAE cars in London at moment, most of them have no front plate. dont know how its allowed

[ChrisFitz]

only thing I can find on motinfo.gov.uk that is relevant is:

d. faded, dirty, delaminated, deteriorated or obscured, (for example by a towbar) so that it is likely to be misread or is not easily legible by a person standing approximately 20 metres to the front/rear of the vehicle.

so to me that means that if you can read it from directly at the front or back from 20m then it's legal.

However, I do remember that stick on ones are illegal from somewhere.

[christer]

With regards to stick on plates, my GTR has a front one as well. I remember a bunch of guys in France were stopped and made to drill and rivet theirs on but I think this is unusual - stick ons are not illegal in the UK afaik.