OK, so I think I've been scammed (alloy wheels).............

[AngryApples]

Feeling somewhat foolish, but even if nobody can come up with an idea to help on this, perhaps it'll make others a tad more cautious!

Replied to THIS ad and seller advised of various payment methods including cash on collection

So, along with the ad not being full of the usual spelling mistakes etc, seemed genuine enough

Made a bank transfer (I know, I know.....) to his halifax account which I believe credited inside 24 hours

Had brief contact 24 hours later saying he'd check his account and if there he'd arrange the delivery, but that was it

Emailed Friday saying if I didnt hear in 24 hours I'd consider it fraud

No reply

So, reported to the police and Gumtree fraud dept.

Goodbye almost £400, I guess



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Edited by AngryApples on Monday 2nd August 12:31

[AngryApples]

Feeling somewhat foolish, but even if nobody can come up with an idea to help on this, perhaps it'll make others a tad more cautious!

Replied to [THIS]|http://www.gumtree.com/london/74/62828474.html#picture-zoom[/url] ad and seller advised of various payment methods including cash on collection

So, along with the ad not being full of the usual spelling mistakes etc, seemed genuine enough

Made a bank transfer (I know, I know.....) to his halifax account which I believe credited inside 24 hours

Had brief contact 24 hours later saying he'd check his account and if there he'd arrange the delivery, but that was it

Emailed Friday saying if I didnt hear in 24 hours I'd consider it fraud

No reply

So, reported to the police and Gumtree fraud dept.

Goodbye almost £400, I guess



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Edited by AngryApples on Monday 2nd August 13:16

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Contact your bank and get them to reclaim tne money.

[Jonboy_t]

It's not been too long since Friday, he may have had a problem with email access or getting to a computer so couldn't reply.

Have you got contact number for him?

[Paul_Dids]

The advert reads well and I can see why you wouldn't suspect anything being wrong.

Fingers crossed the chap comes back to you

[AngryApples]

Jonboy_t said:

It's not been too long since Friday, he may have had a problem with email access or getting to a computer so couldn't reply.

Have you got contact number for him?

Nope

Just fits the dubious thing in that he emailed me Wednesday saying "will check and get delivery sorted" then all went quiet

He's had since Wednesday to contact me with the parcel number

[AngryApples]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Contact your bank and get them to reclaim tne money.

Can this be done when its via a bank transfer online?

I thought that was it once its gone?

[5678]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Contact your bank and get them to reclaim tne money.

People always suggest this but do Banks actually entertain it?! Sounds a bit of a stupid thing for a bank to do. The transfer was not fraudulent, the OP made it himself.

[bonsai]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Contact your bank and get them to reclaim tne money.

You can't do this.

Had another poster on here a few months ago who got scammed in a similar way (although it was pistonheads classified / iPhone) - he couldn't reclaim the money and the police did jack st.

[Jonboy_t]

I know with Direct Debits, the bank can do an indemnity claim. They give you the money essentially and then they claim it back from the other party. Not entirely sure if it's the same with transfers, but would be worth asking banky.

Good luck with it though!

[5678]

Jonboy_t said:

I know with Direct Debits, the bank can do an indemnity claim. They give you the money essentially and then they claim it back from the other party. Not entirely sure if it's the same with transfers, but would be worth asking banky.

Good luck with it though!

They won't for this. As far as the Bank is concerned, the OP transfered money to someone of his own free will. Nothing more than that.

[edo]

Surely a scammer would not offer collection?

Tell you bank you made a mistake and you want to reverse a transaction.

[TonyRPH]

£375 ?

For a set of '19" Bmw M3 Genuine Alloy Wheels & Tyres'

That in itself should have set alarm bells ringing.

Those must be worth at least £500 - £600 ??

[Jonboy_t]

If you transferred the money to him, you must have his account details. Find yourself a computer geek who needs to earn a few quid and relieve him of more than you paid him!

Obviously, unless the wheels turn up....

[havoc]

5678 said:

Jonboy_t said:

I know with Direct Debits, the bank can do an indemnity claim. They give you the money essentially and then they claim it back from the other party. Not entirely sure if it's the same with transfers, but would be worth asking banky.

Good luck with it though!

They won't for this. As far as the Bank is concerned, the OP transfered money to someone of his own free will. Nothing more than that.

Yes, but in this case there is an e-mail chain strongly indicative of both parties entering into a contract. Plus there is sufficient evidence-of-identity that you can probably work out who the scammer is (name + address).*

Therefore if you can get the chap's postal address, then you have two options:-
1) You can submit a small-claims court claim for breach of contract (but seek advice on what you need to do first). CCJ against the chap might not be worth your £400 to him.
2) You can report him to the police for fraud and let the CPS do their thing.



* So much so that if he IS a scammer then he's a pretty ballsy/thick one giving all that info to the OP.

[Petrolhead_Rich]

Jonboy_t said:

If you transferred the money to him, you must have his account details. Find yourself a computer geek who needs to earn a few quid and relieve him of more than you paid him!

Obviously, unless the wheels turn up....

with his account number and sort code you can direct debit to charity or other organisation.

Perhaps pay your car insurance or gas bill with them?

Of course, if it is a scam, there wont be enough cash in the account to do this.

[HellDiver]

You do know it takes 4-5 days to transfer money between some banks, don't you? If that includes a weekend, you can add another 2 days.

[Bollah]

Well, i sent an email to the advert that was posted up and guess what? He replied that they were still for sale, so have replied asking if i can come and collect them and what his location is.

In the mean time, his name is Faysal Ali and email address is [e-mail], so PH detectives can get to work

[hornetrider]

Bollah said:

Well, i sent an email to the advert that was posted up and guess what? He replied that they were still for sale, so have replied asking if i can come and collect them and what his location is.

In the mean time, his name is Faysal Ali and email address is [e-mail], so PH detectives can get to work

Good work!

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[5678]

Bollah said:

Well, i sent an email to the advert that was posted up and guess what? He replied that they were still for sale, so have replied asking if i can come and collect them and what his location is.

In the mean time, his name is Faysal Ali and email address is [e-mail], so PH detectives can get to work

Good lad