Novice Trackday with MSV or a 'normal' trackday

[Scooby_snax]

Just seeking some advice
I have driven on a track (Brands) as part of a single seater experience day
However am now planning to do some car trackdays.
Would you recommend doing the Club MSV Novice Day or just go straight into a straight forward trackday and build up experience with time on the track

[fiveoclockhero1]

Depends how confident you are, the normal days that MSV run can be a bit intimidating for a novice as they have a fair few race cars on trailers turn up. I would say do a couple of MSV novice days or a couple of airfield days with MSE.

[21TonyK]

Couple of airfield days with some instruction and you'll be away. Weekdays tend to be a lot quieter and a bit cheaper.

[Scooby_snax]

fiveoclockhero1 said:

Depends how confident you are, the normal days that MSV run can be a bit intimidating for a novice as they have a fair few race cars on trailers turn up. I would say do a couple of MSV novice days or a couple of airfield days with MSE.

Pardon my ignorance but who are 'MSE'

[21TonyK]

Scooby_snax said:

fiveoclockhero1 said:

Depends how confident you are, the normal days that MSV run can be a bit intimidating for a novice as they have a fair few race cars on trailers turn up. I would say do a couple of MSV novice days or a couple of airfield days with MSE.

Pardon my ignorance but who are 'MSE'

Motor Sport Events - they do a lot of very well run airfield and track days. If you do go with them tell them it's your first time and book an hours instruction.

[V8mate]

My son and I are booked to attend two MSV track days this month - a novice day at Snetterton followed by an open pit lane day a couple of weeks later.

I'm particularly keen to let my son get used to the car at higher speeds (and having cars around him at even higher speeds!) and I've also included an instructor session for each of us at that first session.

You don't get a huge amount of time on track at a novice day - seven x 20 minute sessions over the whole day IIRC - but I think the instructor feedback and having time between sessions to reflect and discuss driving styles will be handy.

I also picked Snetterton for our 'induction' as it's a less complicated circuit than our other nearest, Brands Hatch.

[Munter]

I never did a novice day. Just open pit lane days with easytrack and airfield days with MSE.

[FUNKSTER UK]

V8mate said:

My son and I are booked to attend two MSV track days this month - a novice day at Snetterton followed by an open pit lane day a couple of weeks later.

I'm particularly keen to let my son get used to the car at higher speeds (and having cars around him at even higher speeds!) and I've also included an instructor session for each of us at that first session.

You don't get a huge amount of time on track at a novice day - seven x 20 minute sessions over the whole day IIRC - but I think the instructor feedback and having time between sessions to reflect and discuss driving styles will be handy.

I also picked Snetterton for our 'induction' as it's a less complicated circuit than our other nearest, Brands Hatch.

You and your boy will love Snett, My first ever venture on track and how enjoyable it was.

Matty.

[Son of Flinny]

Just recently done a novice day with MSV at Bedford, highly, highly recommended.

I had also done a single seater experience at Brands a couple of years ago, the difference between the two is massive. You will get so much out of the novice day. Book the tuition though, it's invaluable.

[kaese]

My first track day was a at a 'standard' BaT day at Cadwell Park in my Corsa

Not intimidating in the slightest, despite the speed differential to other cars. Just kept an eye in the mirrors, and let the Caterhams past when appropriate.

Only thing with a novice day: you're surrounded by other novices (obviously) with little track day experience. More likely to make mistakes, or do something unexpected.

[V8mate]

kaese said:

Only thing with a novice day: you're surrounded by other novices (obviously) with little track day experience. More likely to make mistakes, or do something unexpected.

But there are less cars on the track at any one time too, which helps space things out a bit.

[kaese]

V8mate said:

kaese said:

Only thing with a novice day: you're surrounded by other novices (obviously) with little track day experience. More likely to make mistakes, or do something unexpected.

But there are less cars on the track at any one time too, which helps space things out a bit.

Ahh, was unaware of that. That'd definitely help

[porkanut]

Apologies for the long post.
Yesterday did my 2nd Novice day with MSV at Cadwell & having watched the open pitlane track eveving afterwards was glad I went for another novice day.
As another posted stated, folks turn up at open pitlane's with race prepped cars, last night their was a racing golf v rapid car & v agressive driver & two cars from the stock hatch series.

I had never been on a track before as driver or passenger & only have a "warm" hatch which is my main car so ideal for me. Learn the circuit with some instruction & build up pace without having to constantly look in your mirrors & worry you are holding someone up which spoils their fun & yours. Also as they are sessioned usually around 20 mins it give you & the car a chance to recover

Broad mix of cars & abilities on the 2 I've done including some "experienced" novices in track prepped cars, all in all really enjoyable.

Instruction really pays off IMO.

Hope that helps?

[andye30m3]

I did a few MSV novice days 3 or so years ago and think they're a good idea.

although back then they were not policed at all so you'd still see race cars on trailers turning up and at times being a little aggressive.

[M5 Mark]

V8mate said:

My son and I are booked to attend two MSV track days this month - a novice day at Snetterton followed by an open pit lane day a couple of weeks later.

I'm particularly keen to let my son get used to the car at higher speeds (and having cars around him at even higher speeds!) and I've also included an instructor session for each of us at that first session.

You don't get a huge amount of time on track at a novice day - seven x 20 minute sessions over the whole day IIRC - but I think the instructor feedback and having time between sessions to reflect and discuss driving styles will be handy.

I also picked Snetterton for our 'induction' as it's a less complicated circuit than our other nearest, Brands Hatch.

I'm booked onto the Snetterton one next week and so is my GF in her diesel X5, should be interesting! COme and say hello when your there, nice to see some other PHers going I understand there is huge range of NMWs going from 320diesles to Ms looking forward to it!

[V8mate]

M5 Mark said:

V8mate said:

My son and I are booked to attend two MSV track days this month - a novice day at Snetterton followed by an open pit lane day a couple of weeks later.

I'm particularly keen to let my son get used to the car at higher speeds (and having cars around him at even higher speeds!) and I've also included an instructor session for each of us at that first session.

You don't get a huge amount of time on track at a novice day - seven x 20 minute sessions over the whole day IIRC - but I think the instructor feedback and having time between sessions to reflect and discuss driving styles will be handy.

I also picked Snetterton for our 'induction' as it's a less complicated circuit than our other nearest, Brands Hatch.

I'm booked onto the Snetterton one next week and so is my GF in her diesel X5, should be interesting! COme and say hello when your there, nice to see some other PHers going I understand there is huge range of NMWs going from 320diesles to Ms looking forward to it!

Bloody hell - that's a hike from Southamptoon to Snetterton!

We'll be in the Boston Green E36 coupe.

[chevy-stu]

I took my missus, a friend and his girlfriend to an MSV Brands taster novice session recently, and the main difference was that the speeds were slower, no race cars or track day only cars seemed to appear, so in general better for a first timer...
but..
because most are out on track for the first time, the track discipline seemed a bit lacking. It was pointed out by my wife it was alot to take in at once for someone with no track experience or any motorsports interest like her. The overtaking rules, flags, pit lane etiquette, apexes, brake points, turn in points etc all was a bit too much to absorb in one go.. and from what I witnessed, it seemed by the overtaking on bends, ignoring flags etc.. others were the same.

[brucie286]

Another option is the MSV road car only track days theyve just started doing. Basically its sessioned by ability but for road cars only to keep the racers at bay.

http://www.clubmsv.com/car-home/event-details.aspx...

[will121]

V8mate said:

My son and I are booked to attend two MSV track days this month - a novice day at Snetterton followed by an open pit lane day a couple of weeks later.

I'm particularly keen to let my son get used to the car at higher speeds (and having cars around him at even higher speeds!) and I've also included an instructor session for each of us at that first session.

You don't get a huge amount of time on track at a novice day - seven x 20 minute sessions over the whole day IIRC - but I think the instructor feedback and having time between sessions to reflect and discuss driving styles will be handy.

I also picked Snetterton for our 'induction' as it's a less complicated circuit than our other nearest, Brands Hatch.

i started off with a couple of novice days at Snetterton and thought it was a good insight and not intimidating, think the instructor assistance would have been usefull but ive only got one seat fitted!! dont remember how the sessions worked though if have two drivers wether you share the 7 or can go accross two sessions. Although snetterton is a basic looking track, it does (with me anyway) encourage a bit of red mist sometimes and some of the corners while basic are fast which can be interesting in damp conditions and lead to some high speed offs onto wet slippery grass.

[M5 Mark]

V8mate said:

M5 Mark said:

V8mate said:

My son and I are booked to attend two MSV track days this month - a novice day at Snetterton followed by an open pit lane day a couple of weeks later.

I'm particularly keen to let my son get used to the car at higher speeds (and having cars around him at even higher speeds!) and I've also included an instructor session for each of us at that first session.

You don't get a huge amount of time on track at a novice day - seven x 20 minute sessions over the whole day IIRC - but I think the instructor feedback and having time between sessions to reflect and discuss driving styles will be handy.

I also picked Snetterton for our 'induction' as it's a less complicated circuit than our other nearest, Brands Hatch.

I'm booked onto the Snetterton one next week and so is my GF in her diesel X5, should be interesting! COme and say hello when your there, nice to see some other PHers going I understand there is huge range of NMWs going from 320diesles to Ms looking forward to it!

Bloody hell - that's a hike from Southamptoon to Snetterton!

We'll be in the Boston Green E36 coupe.

Yeah it's not exactly local! Making a couple of days of it though and staying over in Cambridge. I did the Brands one and found it way to small and short for the M5 and was told Snetterton would be better. Only one way to find! See you there