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What I find interesting is everytime I've undertaken driver training with various companies the nice police instructor sitting at the side of me has invited me to exceed the limit to 'make some nice prigress' in NSL zones. Clearly then, out of uniform they don't run with all thus speed kills bs. M
mph999 said:
What I find interesting is everytime I've undertaken driver training with various companies the nice police instructor sitting at the side of me has invited me to exceed the limit to 'make some nice prigress' in NSL zones. Clearly then, out of uniform they don't run with all thus speed kills bs. M
I suspect that varies somewhat.Off duty they have no dispensation to exceed the speed limit and run the same risks as anyone else when doing so. I expect that some of them make additional progress to that which is legally allowed and some do not. I am also certain that they pick their moments with great care.
When I did IAM bike, I was told not to exceed the speed limit, although the (Police) examiner was very keen for me to make quick get-aways and to get to the limit quickly, which doesn't take very long on a bike anyway.
He agreed that many limits were unnecessarily low (and set by councils influenced by lobbyists like BRAKE), but that was the law.
He agreed that many limits were unnecessarily low (and set by councils influenced by lobbyists like BRAKE), but that was the law.
Mark-C said:
I have no opinion on the subject ... just quite impressed at myself for finding a way in ....
Flintstone said:
Only the gifted can find their way in.
Paul 8v said:
I had an asessment at my last company as part of driving a company vehicle and the instructor who was ex police refered to the NSL signs as the "GLF" signs as in Go Like F@*k!
I've heard it was called the GLS sign when video cameras came into the car 
Paul 8v said:
I had an asessment at my last company as part of driving a company vehicle and the instructor who was ex police refered to the NSL signs as the "GLF" signs as in Go Like F@*k!
Stap me! Why bother to come up with a new acronym? NSL means No Speed Limit.Doesn't it......?
Please don't tell me I have been doing it wrong all these years.......
mph999 said:
FasterFreddy said:
Do you mean retired police instructor?
No, I mean serving ...I hasten to add, I declined the offer ...
Or, could be described as official and unofficial.
Which should have precedence?
That's the question we all face on many occasions.
Can we get away with it?
Why did you decline?
Red Devil said:
Paul 8v said:
I had an asessment at my last company as part of driving a company vehicle and the instructor who was ex police refered to the NSL signs as the "GLF" signs as in Go Like F@*k!
Stap me! Why bother to come up with a new acronym? NSL means No Speed Limit.Doesn't it......?
Please don't tell me I have been doing it wrong all these years.......
I wish I was old enough to remember the Unrestricted roads/motorways....
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Red Devil said:
Paul 8v said:
I had an asessment at my last company as part of driving a company vehicle and the instructor who was ex police refered to the NSL signs as the "GLF" signs as in Go Like F@*k!
Stap me! Why bother to come up with a new acronym? NSL means No Speed Limit.Doesn't it......?
Please don't tell me I have been doing it wrong all these years.......
I wish I was old enough to remember the Unrestricted roads/motorways....
It's a good point to raise actually (the OP's). I'll admit that did once collect 3 points on my license many years ago. I was caught at on a Sunday morning in light traffic doing 60mph on an empty dual carriageway with a 50mph limit; I was on the way over to my Dad's for his birthday, wasn't in a rush, but it was such a clear dry day I felt 60mph was safe. It was a fair cop - I knew the speed limit and knew I was doing 60mph, so it was my own stupid fault, I just felt it was safe and perhaps somewhat irresponsibly disregarded the law for a moment! I didn't contest it at all.
However, when I've undertaken advanced training or driven with advanced drivers they often break the speed limit slightly, and often by that sort of margin. I seem to remember even my basuc driving instructor in a post test session (before the days of pass plus) saying he didn't mind if I exceeded the limit slightly if it was safe to do so. What views do you all have on this? Would John Lyon, Hugh Noblett or a similar driver of high regard ever do 60mph in a 50 limit if safe to do so, and would an unmarked car pull them for doing that speed? Or perhaps a safety camera van extremely well hidden? I know the real answer is that such excellent drivers would see the safety camera van, but I've often wondered nonetheless.
However, when I've undertaken advanced training or driven with advanced drivers they often break the speed limit slightly, and often by that sort of margin. I seem to remember even my basuc driving instructor in a post test session (before the days of pass plus) saying he didn't mind if I exceeded the limit slightly if it was safe to do so. What views do you all have on this? Would John Lyon, Hugh Noblett or a similar driver of high regard ever do 60mph in a 50 limit if safe to do so, and would an unmarked car pull them for doing that speed? Or perhaps a safety camera van extremely well hidden? I know the real answer is that such excellent drivers would see the safety camera van, but I've often wondered nonetheless.
I think the real answer is that they could quite easily be caught by a hidden van (or unmarked car) if they were to exceed the limit in areas they were present & they'd be treated the same as anyone else if caught. Also anyone actively encouraging them to do it would be aiding & abetting & as a result committing their own offence.
RobM77 said:
I know the real answer is that such excellent drivers would see the safety camera van, but I've often wondered nonetheless.
There have been a few high-profile stories where police driving instructors have been caught driving above the speed limit while off-duty. Fortunately, the law is very black and white in this area and so straying above the posted limit is a risk, however safe the prevailing conditions. As with everything in life, some risks are bigger than others so people take their chances without consequence. What I find interesting is that the public hate the "safety camera" because it indiscriminately applies the letter of the law and they would prefer to see more traffic officers on the road .. is this because their perception is that it will increase their chances of getting away with it.... 
Chris
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