Brunstrom's shiny new fleet
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Daily Post has a report on Brunstrom and his chums providing brand new Audi's, BMW's and Mercedes cars for senior officers AND senior civilian staff.
N Wales police refuse to reveal any information on the new fleet.
Council tax payers were asked to increase the police precept by 31% last year and a further 19% this year.
Police claim they need such cars in order to, "move swiftly to take command at incidents"
Full story here;
http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/tm_objectid=14077632%26method=full%26siteid=50142%26headline=top%2dcops%2dget%2dluxury%2dcars-name_page.html
N Wales police refuse to reveal any information on the new fleet.
Council tax payers were asked to increase the police precept by 31% last year and a further 19% this year.
Police claim they need such cars in order to, "move swiftly to take command at incidents"
Full story here;
http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/tm_objectid=14077632%26method=full%26siteid=50142%26headline=top%2dcops%2dget%2dluxury%2dcars-name_page.html
Tafia said:
Police claim they need such cars in order to, "move swiftly to take command at incidents"
article said:
Acting Assistant Chief Constable Steve Curtis also drives a brand-new black Mercedes C180 Kompressor
Bit of a contradiction there. You'd think that with all the lies they tell they'd start getting good at it!
Ah! So that is why his proposed "Speed Course" is reportedly lots more expensive than the other fleecers' "offerings"! 
This what they spend the "surplus over expenditure" on?
Plus the extra they charge on the Council Tax!
Sure they know how to drive these cars? After all - speed is such a
in Brunstromia!
If they need to get to all these "incidents" in their turbo charged motors - then the scams are neither "saving lives nor preventing accidents". But then we already know that! rolleyes:
Notice they do not speed to "incidents" which involve burglars, street muggers, and all the other "unresolved" incidents which the beleaguered people of Brunstromia are complaining about!
This what they spend the "surplus over expenditure" on?
Plus the extra they charge on the Council Tax!
Sure they know how to drive these cars? After all - speed is such a
in Brunstromia! If they need to get to all these "incidents" in their turbo charged motors - then the scams are neither "saving lives nor preventing accidents". But then we already know that! rolleyes:
Notice they do not speed to "incidents" which involve burglars, street muggers, and all the other "unresolved" incidents which the beleaguered people of Brunstromia are complaining about!
nazi to me or one of those Soviet Politbureau dickheads!!article said:
A North Wales Police spokeswoman yesterday refused to answer a series of detailed questions about the size of the luxury fleet, its cost and whether the unmarked cars were fitted with sirens and flashing lights which could allow certain tax benefits
Can I get tax benefits if I fit sirens and flashing lights to my car? I'd welcome a reduction in company car tax. Mr Brown's "revenue neutral" CO2-based arrangements more than doubled my car tax given my 30k/year company travel, and I'd be willing to be mistaken for a police superintendent if it reduced my tax....
article said:
....private cars were being used and allowances and claims made for running them. This was costly, poor value for money....
So what do they do to address the cost?
article said:
New vehicles.... would cost between £5,000 and £7,000 each a year to lease for the three officers - a total of £19,000 a year, which was about £4,000 more expensive than the existing scheme and the extra would be met by efficiency savings
Go for a scheme that costs more!!! Are these efficiency savings real? If so, apply them to the old scheme and save even more.
Whatever happened to 'Leading by example'
Knowing the bad publicity that this guy is attracting to the police force in general - shouldn't his superiors be telling hime to keep his head down, or is he above all that?
Shouldn't he keep these costs down and spend the money better where its really needed, lower down the ranks!
Knowing the bad publicity that this guy is attracting to the police force in general - shouldn't his superiors be telling hime to keep his head down, or is he above all that?
Shouldn't he keep these costs down and spend the money better where its really needed, lower down the ranks!
Tafia said:
.... Police claim they need such cars in order to, "move swiftly to take command at incidents" ...
Erm - please excuse my stupidity - but is this what the blues and twos are for?
Would they get somewhere any quicker in a fancy motor than they would in a regular motor? - considering normal daytime traffic with the lights are sirens going?
Thanks for that, Tafia.
A North Wales Police spokeswoman yesterday refused to answer a series of detailed questions about the size of the luxury fleet, its cost and whether the unmarked cars were fitted with sirens and flashing lights which could allow certain tax benefits.
Oooooh, hoo, hoo........if so, blatant tax evasion here. Some of 'em civvies, too.......
The Revenue will fix 'em.
Just needs a quiet word in the right ear.
A North Wales Police spokeswoman yesterday refused to answer a series of detailed questions about the size of the luxury fleet, its cost and whether the unmarked cars were fitted with sirens and flashing lights which could allow certain tax benefits.
Oooooh, hoo, hoo........if so, blatant tax evasion here. Some of 'em civvies, too.......
The Revenue will fix 'em.
Just needs a quiet word in the right ear.
Fining motorists who 'speed' and then using the fine 'revenue' to buy fast cars for the 'partnership members' 
Preventing the plebs from driving whilst the elite are driven in limo's - Communist Russia/GDR anyone? :backintheussr:
This makes me
how much further will this 'corruption' be allowed to go before the people have had enough (Answer - unfortunately due to 'Apathy UK' completely down the crapper - probably)
and more
>> Edited by cazzo on Monday 22 March 22:53
Preventing the plebs from driving whilst the elite are driven in limo's - Communist Russia/GDR anyone? :backintheussr:
This makes me
how much further will this 'corruption' be allowed to go before the people have had enough (Answer - unfortunately due to 'Apathy UK' completely down the crapper - probably)
and more >> Edited by cazzo on Monday 22 March 22:53
Bobbins said:
It's amazing how expensive a car description can sound - that car is an entry level C Series. You can pay more for a Mondeo or a 406.
I think you've missed the point. These cretins have spent money on "luxury" cars that simply weren't needed, and will cost more than existing transport arrangements. They have then made the weakest and most lame excuse of it "improving efficiency"
Depending on the actual variant of the C180K, the only Mondeo that's a little more expensive is the top of the range ST220, surely a more suitable car for getting to "incidents" more quickly?
This really should warrant some kind of investigation, it throws an even worse light on a police force whose megalomaniac chief has already caused them much embarrassment.
Davel said:
Whatever happened to 'Leading by example'?
It'd mean they'de have to travel by bus with the great unwashed... can you imagine brownshirtsturmführer living long after getting onto a bus???
his "friends" the junkies would mug him and jab him with an AIDS needle, just to get their next fix, and serve the boo99er right too, the arrogant control-freak twat!!!!
Munter said:I was told (some time ago I admit) never to buy a used police car. The reason given was that the police employed ex-REME mechanics (motto: "This looks complicated, better get a bigger hammer") who torqued nuts and bolts up using a six foot length of scaffold tube over the wrench
I've been noticing nice BMW 5 series estates driving around Uxbridge in full (Met) police makings.
Interestingly all the cop cars around here are silver now!
Could this change to "luxury" cars be caused by the demise of the Vauxhall Omega? And why silver? Better resale values?
- StreakyResign call over police cars cost
http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/tm_objectid=14080836&method=full&siteid=50142&headline=resign-call-over-police-cars-cost-name_page.html
A PENSIONER who led a campaign against the high cost of policing in North Wales is calling for the resignation of members of the Police Authority.
Eric Wilde decided to write to the Home Office after reading in Saturday's Daily Post about the luxury cars being driven by senior officers and civilian staff.
He is even more furious that North Wales Police refused to offer any explanation for the expenditure at a time when the precept to pay for police services has risen by 19pc.
Last year Mr Wilde, a retired civil servant, of Llwyngwril, near Dolgellau, launched a protest campaign against the 31pc rise in the police precept, sending copies of a petition to all town and community councils in South Merioneth.
For medical reasons he has been advised to take things more easily, but said he felt obliged to renew his protest.
"It's an absolute disgrace that the public is having to pay for luxury cars and even worse that no-one has the courage to try to justify the expenditure," he said.
"It proves what I suspected, that the members of the Police Authority are merely puppets and go along with everything the Chief Constable says," said Mr Wilde.
He said that he would be writing to the Clerk to the Authority Kelvin Dent seeking an explanation for the expenditure and would also seek an interview with Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom.
"But I think the Home Secretary, or whoever is responsible, should make the Authority members step down because they have been shown to be incompetent," he added.
http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/tm_objectid=14080836&method=full&siteid=50142&headline=resign-call-over-police-cars-cost-name_page.html
A PENSIONER who led a campaign against the high cost of policing in North Wales is calling for the resignation of members of the Police Authority.
Eric Wilde decided to write to the Home Office after reading in Saturday's Daily Post about the luxury cars being driven by senior officers and civilian staff.
He is even more furious that North Wales Police refused to offer any explanation for the expenditure at a time when the precept to pay for police services has risen by 19pc.
Last year Mr Wilde, a retired civil servant, of Llwyngwril, near Dolgellau, launched a protest campaign against the 31pc rise in the police precept, sending copies of a petition to all town and community councils in South Merioneth.
For medical reasons he has been advised to take things more easily, but said he felt obliged to renew his protest.
"It's an absolute disgrace that the public is having to pay for luxury cars and even worse that no-one has the courage to try to justify the expenditure," he said.
"It proves what I suspected, that the members of the Police Authority are merely puppets and go along with everything the Chief Constable says," said Mr Wilde.
He said that he would be writing to the Clerk to the Authority Kelvin Dent seeking an explanation for the expenditure and would also seek an interview with Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom.
"But I think the Home Secretary, or whoever is responsible, should make the Authority members step down because they have been shown to be incompetent," he added.
streaky said:
I was told (some time ago I admit) never to buy a used police car. The reason given was that the police employed ex-REME mechanics (motto: "This looks complicated, better get a bigger hammer") who torqued nuts and bolts up using a six foot length of scaffold tube over the wrench
Worse now - a lot of forces subcontract all their servicing out to commerical garages...
I read about one force who had complaints from the civvy fleet drivers about mechanical faults. They did a spot check and had to issue prohibition notices to many of their own vehicle - including marked patrol cars.
Gareth
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