Just bought valium in Cambodia, can I bring it back home ?
Just bought valium in Cambodia, can I bring it back home ?
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Tampon

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4,637 posts

256 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Right my mum uses valium but it is a pain for her to get now days so whilst out here traveling I have bought some for her, me and the Mrs ( about 180 tablets in all, 6 packets ) now between the two of us that is 3 packets each, now before I end up banged up when I come home in a couple of months, what is the situation with bringing that back through customs ? do I declare it ? am I ok to swan through ? Friend brought back a few packets from Bolivia a few months back and she never gave it a second thought, she is a bit dappy thought so I thought I would check first.

I figured it was illegal to sell without a license but personal use would be fine ( bit like steroids Viagra etc ). It isn't a illegal drug to own in the uk is it ? just illegal to sell ?

Any one know the law ?'ok for me to bring it back? do I have too much for personal use ? would I just be better off posting it ?

I have tried the internet but it just says it is illegal to sell a prescribed drug and that Valium is a prescribed drug.

Before anyone asks I am not Pablo Escobar and my mum has had insomnia for years, recent changes means she isn't able to get the medication her doctor used to hand out like sweets.

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

256 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Oh I thought I would add, my mum has a prescription for Valium in the uk, would that make a difference if I send them to her ?

I could probably get a prescription from a doctor over here if I needed to.

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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make sure that you do not have any transits in Dubai.

Otherwise don't think it is a problem, but would wait for wiser people than I to comment.

toast boy

1,242 posts

257 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Valium is illegal to possess without a prescription IIRC. I'm not sure how that translates to going through customs, you wouldn't take your prescription on holiday with you, but I'd also imagine they would be quite suspicious. As an alternative - has she tried zopiclone for her insomnia, you can buy that over the internet and get it delivered to your door.

Tampon

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4,637 posts

256 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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I am traveling back through Thailand by bus and then into Malaysia and flying from KL to Standstead.

So maybe a prescription from a doc over here might do the trick.

Anyone know where I could get definitive advise ?

Four Cofffee

11,838 posts

266 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Medicines Act offence and unlawful possession of a controlled drug if my memory serves me right. She has to have a prescription for that specific tablet you are carrying, not any or all tablets of that type.

Best pack some chocolate, cigarettes and condoms too because I understand they are the currency where you may end up!

working class

8,999 posts

218 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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And learn to swallow

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

256 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Four Cofffee said:
Medicines Act offence and unlawful possession of a controlled drug if my memory serves me right. She has to have a prescription for that specific tablet you are carrying, not any or all tablets of that type.

Best pack some chocolate, cigarettes and condoms too because I understand they are the currency where you may end up!
So a prescription for me over here would do the trick ?

Don't think bubba practices safe sex when he goes on a raping spree.....

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Tampon said:
Four Cofffee said:
Medicines Act offence and unlawful possession of a controlled drug if my memory serves me right. She has to have a prescription for that specific tablet you are carrying, not any or all tablets of that type.

Best pack some chocolate, cigarettes and condoms too because I understand they are the currency where you may end up!
So a prescription for me over here would do the trick ?

Don't think bubba practices safe sex when he goes on a raping spree.....
No, he's saying a prescription wouldnt do the trick, the script has to be for that specific medication, for example the prescription would indicate 30 tablets of Valium, which would correspond with the packet and the label printed on it by the dispensing pharmacy.

Having a valid prescription for a weeks worth of Valium and then coming through customs with a suitcase full of the stuff wouldnt work!!

Of course, wheter customs a) find them and b) can be bothered to look into the case when they have dozens of illegals with their bums full of horse trying to get through is entirely guesswork!

I'd be nervous about wandering through customs with them, posting is probably a safer bet (this is how all the Internet pharmacies work anyway, posting from abroad) but stil technically not quite legal!


Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

223 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Tampon said:
I am traveling back through Thailand by bus and then into Malaysia and flying from KL to Standstead.

So maybe a prescription from a doc over here might do the trick.

Anyone know where I could get definitive advise ?
Im dropping my dad off at stanstead tomorrow to fly to KL, perhaps I will see you there, with a customs officers finger up... well you get the picture.

Back to the point, British Embassy:
http://ukincambodia.fco.gov.uk/en/

British Embassy in Cambodia said:
Penalties for drug offences, including those involving Class C, drugs are severe. Prison sentences can be long and served in grim conditions. In addition to the criminal penalties, you should be aware that drugs have been the cause of a number of deaths of travellers in Cambodia. These are suspected to be a result of the high purity, or adulteration by unknown substances, of the drugs involved.
British Embassy in Cambodia said:
Local pharmacies provide a limited supply of medications, and some may sell counterfeit products. You are advised to bring adequate supplies for the duration of your stay.
British Embassy in Malaysia said:
There are severe penalties for all drug offences in Malaysia: trafficking (defined here as the possession of a certain quantity of drugs) incurs a mandatory death penalty; possession incurs a custodial sentence and possible whipping. This includes the possession of or trafficking in Amphetamine-type stimulants.
Worth the risk??

Either there illegal, counterfeit or both!

Pills actually made of heroine/cocaine or whatever from Cambodia, detected in malaysia = DEATHeek

Neil H

15,418 posts

282 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Do not carry that quatity back with you, you're asking for trouble.

Post it to yourself, using a random name.

Arese

21,386 posts

218 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Jesus. If there's one place where you don't want to be taking these kinds of risks, it's Thailand.

As Neil said, maybe post them back to your work address or something.

twiglove

1,178 posts

225 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Keep us posted with your journey home please smile

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

223 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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twiglove said:
Keep us posted with your journey home please smile
It will be on the 9o'clock news:

"British Couple arrested for smuggling valium through Asia"

Seriously OP, dont, not even the posting bit!

Customs:

Package to:
MR. SMITH
22 my road
my street
my town
my postcode

contents:
Valium (enough for a month!)

Action:
Arrested and poked by a custom official yikes

sw4rm

220 posts

214 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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O/T slightly but I assume by the fact your mother has a prescription for Diazepam but is finding it harder to come by that you mean her Dr has realised "st, I've been giving this woman a repeat px for 30 years, she has a raging dependence on it and I'm in deep water if I don't sort this out soon." So he has begun reducing her gradually?

I understand why you're doing it, but what happens when the 6 packets run out? If she is reducing she'll probably be completely off the prescription by then. Better for her and her Dr to look at alternatives.

Diazepam is horrible drug to depend on.

Unless of course your Mother is really old in which case seems crazy for the Dr to put her through the reduction and the associated effects rather than just keep her on it for the remainder of her life.

Let me know if you want to discuss this seperate issue. I have (professional) addiction experience.

If I'm completely off mark on this one I apologise but your Mothers situation is very common across the Health Board now.

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

223 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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sw4rm said:
I have (professional) addiction experience.
You were a drug dealer? hehe

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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toast boy said:
As an alternative - has she tried zopiclone for her insomnia, you can buy that over the internet and get it delivered to your door.
Horrible stuff. Tamazepam is king


N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

253 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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sw4rm said:
Loads of sensible things
This is something your mum should be talking to her GP about. By just bringing in more Valium, you're not really tackling the problem; just prolonging the difficulty.

Have a chat with your mum and see if you can get her to go back to her GP. If you really want 'under the counter' tranquilisers then they're easy enough to get hold of, but you'd be better off doing things by the book in the longer term.

sw4rm

220 posts

214 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
sw4rm said:
I have (professional) addiction experience.
You were a drug dealer? hehe
Amateur chemist is our preferred term.

JMGS4

8,933 posts

301 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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AND I'd be very sceptical whether it's actually Valium and not some prepacked fake!!! Over 90% of prescription drugs stopped by the german post are fakes!!! And some of the fakes are so good they can only be checked chemically, the packaging fakery is so good! And with a cambodian origin I'd be very careful!