griff headlamp sealant
griff headlamp sealant
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griffert

Original Poster:

56 posts

293 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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My perspex headlamp covers need resealing to the body - can anyone recommend a suitable sealant to use,
I assume its either polyurethane or silicone (high modulus ?) , also any advice about what is used for
fixing the windscreen rubbers (top and bottom) too would be a real help ?
Thanks in anticipation.
JIM

Aussie John

1,021 posts

260 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Sikaflex, there are a few to choose from, cheers John.

Barreti

6,689 posts

266 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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By strange coincidence I went to the local chandlry yesterday to get some Sikaflex only to be told they no longer sell it and now sell something called SABA Sealtack 751 as a replacement product.

I have the specsheet here with me today and it looks pretty good, but its £10 a tube so a bit expensive to take a chance on.

Has anyone used this stuff?


Info off the spec sheet FYI

Finishing interior parts YES
Above Waterline YES
Below Waterline YES
Deck Fitting YES
Stainless Steel YES
Keel-hull joints YES
Panel Bonding *** NO ***
Polyester (repair) YES
PVC and cork deck coverings YES
Margin Board NO
Sanitary NO
Rubber fenders YES (the things they dangle off the side of boats, not car bumpers!)
Structural fixing & finishing YES
Teak-hull joints NO
Pipe systems YES
Application of glass NO
Sealing joints in teak decks NO

Skin Time 30 mins
Tack-free 24 hours
Hardnett 55
Modulus 1,50
Temp resistance -40 to +100 deg C
Work temperature +5 to +35
Tensile strength (N/mm2) 2.60
Paintable YES
Colours White/Grey/Black/Teak/Mahogany
Elongation at break (in %) 275

Phew....
So, bearing in mind the NO to Panel Bonding I've highlighted, does this look like an alternative to Sikaflex?


Edited by Barreti on Friday 6th August 09:07

Johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Application of glass ****NO****

Although they're perspex . . . . I'd go with Sikaflex as it's a known quantity (I've a spare tube if you want it Ian)

Barreti

6,689 posts

266 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Is it Sikaflex 291 we use?
I'm sure that number rings a bell.

I'm awaiting a call wback from a local chandlery Johno, if that comes to nothing I might just take you up on your kind offer. Cheers mate.

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

254 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Tiger Seal delivered to your door at £8.40 for a 310ml tube.

I have no connection to the product or the vendor.

Marty V8

578 posts

215 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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I fixed my top winscreen rubber which started flapping with Evo Stick One Part Polysulphide Sealer, available from Jewsons. Sticks like $hcensoredt to a blanket. I have wind tested it since with no adverse effectsbiggrin

I cant exactly remember the price but I think its about £8.50 - £9.00. Standard cartridge size.

Not sure if its suitable for the perspex headlight covers though.

gizzer

671 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Best stick to tiger seal yes

griffert

Original Poster:

56 posts

293 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Thanks very much , I'll get some TIGERSEAL, I've heard of SIKAFLEX used on boat fittings,
assume you mask around the body / perspex to avoid the stuff getting everywhere.?
cheers
JIM

Barreti

6,689 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Hello Griffert, in the end I bought Tigerseal from ebay and it arrived withing a couple of days but it wasn't exactly lightening fast delivery.

I can't find a 'best before end' date anywhere, so I'm hoping this stuff doesn't go off like the Sikaflex did because I bought 2 tubes.

When I've used Sikaflex to do the headlight pods in the past I followed a guide somewhere on the net. I'll find it and stick a link here because it has some really useful tips on how to get a good finish.
I think I got a nice edge last time I did it by leaving it a day then gently going around 'cutting' a clean edge with my thumb nail.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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2munkys your man, he managed to source some excellent stuff. Can't remember the name of the top of my head but will have a look in the garage later if you haven't already sourced some?

topsparks

1,202 posts

276 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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I have some stuff at work that is an equivalent to sikaflex,soudaflex FC 40,I took some up to the Growl a few years ago,they are £3.50 a tube

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Excuse the thread resurection !!

Griffert, Barreti, how did the Tigerseal perform after ?

Just noticed the Sikaflex starting to peel off the near side cover when I washed the car on Sunday and was wondering what I should use to re-seal. Only about 2-3 inches peeling at the moment but its bound to start getting worse rapidly !!

Any luck on finding that linky guide to re-sealing Ian ?

Cheers.

eta Has anyone else used soudaflex ? Not heard of this one before.

Edited by Mr MoJo on Tuesday 4th January 09:11

Barreti

6,689 posts

266 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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I haven't been able to find the internet article I talked about despite searching TheGriffithPages, TCP and here, and I haven't even been near the garage so I'm sorry to report I've failed on all counts :-(

I think the tips boiled down to how to fit the light pod and leaving the light to stick for 24hrs before attempting to seal it from the outside.
And I recall something about using a plastic garden plant marker as the tool for getting the right profile on the sealant.
TBH, I use the same process as when I do kitchen/bathroom seals, lots of kitchen roll, a spray bottle of water and my finger.
Leave any excess to dry and cut the edge cleanly where you need to with a sharp knife then peel off all the excess.

i think that sounds right.



Edited by Barreti on Tuesday 4th January 17:17

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Cheers Ian, don't really need the pod fitting guide anyway. Just need to re seal around the outside of the perspex cover.

Anyone else used tiger seal ?

Is the original sealant used Sikaflex 291 then, there seeem to be quite a few places to get a tube of this on the net ?


Edited by Mr MoJo on Tuesday 4th January 17:32

MPoxon

5,329 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Mr MoJo said:
Anyone else used tiger seal ?
I would be interested in any experiences with this as well as I need to stick my windscreen seal back on at the bottom.

chris52

1,560 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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If your light is fitted solidly and its just a cosmetic bead your wanting to put around the pod then try Dumdum http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8... its very easy to use and if you make a mistake very easy to rectify unlike silicone based sealers.

Chris

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Cheers Chris, will look into that as the light unit is completely secure.
How's things anyway ? How's the car running now ? Still haven't had mine set up on the rollers yet !! It's top of my to do list for 2011. Need to set a date with MA before this years events start.

Matthew, the guys who replaced my screen last year used Sikaflex on it, it's stuck very securely around the rubber seal now smile hope you're well mate.

chris52

1,560 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Hi Simon I'm in the middle of a 4" body lift and was really happy as very little rust found just a bit of surface rust in a couple of the inner corners, the body is back on the chassis now and just the rear arms to repaint and get back on so hope to see you at Chatsworth if not before.
Chris

CHGRIFF

326 posts

281 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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SC Power have Sikaflex 291 suited to headlamp sealing for £7. Might be worth calling.