I am a speeder
Discussion
Almost every time I drive I break the speed limit at some stage during my journey. In spite of this I do take pride in driving safely and often drive well below the speed limit where conditions, my observations and my judgement dictate.
By my reckoning I should well have amassed thousands of speeding fines and be banned for life if there were effective means to identify this (eg big brother style monitor in the car).
Should I go to my local police station, hold my hands up and confess everything?
By my reckoning I should well have amassed thousands of speeding fines and be banned for life if there were effective means to identify this (eg big brother style monitor in the car).
Should I go to my local police station, hold my hands up and confess everything?
Butzi said:
So how many children have you killed?
Don't think he's killed any but probably saved a few because he's concentrating on the driving rather than the speedo!
Now there's a point. I find myself constantly distracted by monitoring the speedo rather than the car/bike/small child playing with his ball in front of me. I guess the police take a dim view of, "i was checking i didn't break the speed laws when i ran over johnny, and so I couldn't see him".
My issue is that taken to the logical extreme, if detection methods were improved then under current legislation, almost all drivers would be banned by the end of the week.
With other crimes eg burglary, everyone (except the crims) would be happy with a 100% clear-up rate. The same can not be said of the current speeding laws as the country would quickly grind to a halt.
In summary, the speeding laws can not work, instead a new law 'Driving like a numpty/tw@t/nutter' (delete as applicable) should be introduced forthwith and policed by experienced and qualified observers (ie. Pistonheaders).
Oh and by the way, nothing wrong with the work of Mr Sayer
With other crimes eg burglary, everyone (except the crims) would be happy with a 100% clear-up rate. The same can not be said of the current speeding laws as the country would quickly grind to a halt.
In summary, the speeding laws can not work, instead a new law 'Driving like a numpty/tw@t/nutter' (delete as applicable) should be introduced forthwith and policed by experienced and qualified observers (ie. Pistonheaders).
Oh and by the way, nothing wrong with the work of Mr Sayer
leosayer said:
Almost every time I drive I break the speed limit at some stage during my journey. In spite of this I do take pride in driving safely and often drive well below the speed limit where conditions, my observations and my judgement dictate.
By my reckoning I should well have amassed thousands of speeding fines and be banned for life if there were effective means to identify this (eg big brother style monitor in the car).
Should I go to my local police station, hold my hands up and confess everything?
I think we are all guilty of that, so we must all be criminals, so the plod will have to work even harder and eat less donuts to catch us all!! How many drivers are there in the country? 20 odd million?
volvod5_dude said:
Almost every time I drive I break the speed limit at some stage during my journey. In spite of this I do take pride in driving safely and often drive well below the speed limit where conditions, my observations and my judgement dictate.
By my reckoning I should well have amassed thousands of speeding fines and be banned for life if there were effective means to identify this (eg big brother style monitor in the car).
Should I go to my local police station, hold my hands up and confess everything?
I think we are all guilty of that, so we must all be criminals, so the plod will have to work even harder and eat less donuts to catch us all!! How many drivers are there in the country? 20 odd million?
No dammit, I refuse to regard myself as a criminal simply because I have exceeded an arbitrary speed limit a few times - well maybe more than a few.
The last time I calculated it the figure looked to be around 12,500 assuming that not more than one transgression per day is counted, but if you were to count them all it would quite likely exceed a quarter of a million. Whatever, so long as we can maintain a record of safe and considerate driving that is really all that matters in my view.
The current obsession with clamping down on 'speeding' is sheer nonsense, and we should dispense with that policy forthwith and substitute a more comprehensive and intelligent road safety philosophy.
Regrettably the A169 did not yield a new lap record this morning. I suspect there was a touch of frost in places!
Best wishes all, and take care of each other.
Dave.
you are forgeting several things;
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
leosayer said:
Almost every time I drive I break the speed limit at some stage during my journey. In spite of this I do take pride in driving safely and often drive well below the speed limit where conditions, my observations and my judgement dictate.
By my reckoning I should well have amassed thousands of speeding fines and be banned for life if there were effective means to identify this (eg big brother style monitor in the car).
Should I go to my local police station, hold my hands up and confess everything?
Why in the name of french side-ways buggery would you consider that? do you value your life as it is? are you insane? 1st things first, they will probably tell you to go away, secondly have you sampled public transport of late..........not a spicy meatball might i say.
Anyway your life, your choice. i think you are bonkers but thats me.
smashmonkey1984 said:
Almost every time I drive I break the speed limit at some stage during my journey. In spite of this I do take pride in driving safely and often drive well below the speed limit where conditions, my observations and my judgement dictate.
By my reckoning I should well have amassed thousands of speeding fines and be banned for life if there were effective means to identify this (eg big brother style monitor in the car).
Should I go to my local police station, hold my hands up and confess everything?
Why in the name of french side-ways buggery would you consider that? do you value your life as it is? are you insane? 1st things first, they will probably tell you to go away, secondly have you sampled public transport of late..........not a spicy meatball might i say.
Anyway your life, your choice. i think you are bonkers but thats me.
Not bonkers, just asking. I probably should have added a
to my first post! x5x3 said:
you are forgeting several things;
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
1) I am not forgetting that, it's the whole point of my post!
2) and a fine job the speed limits do in keeping dangerous drivers off the road
3) Just as long as I don't break the speed limit right?
4) Not true, I classify 100mph on an empty clear motorway as 'driving to the circumstances and conditions'. I would expect to be caught soon enough.
x5x3 said:
you are forgeting several things;
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
I do not think we are forgetting several things.
1. We all know 'speeding' is illegal.
2. We do not all claim to be excellent drivers, but I expect that most PHers are enthusiastic drivers who think about what they are doing, and seek to continue the learning process. The real problem is that most drivers do not do that. They just press on regardless, sometimes with dreadful results.
3. If driving 'sensibly' means always complying with speed limits then presumably one would not get caught 'speeding' - but that still leaves plenty of scope for mistakes and accidents.
4. Speaking for myself, I do always try to drive according to the circumstances and conditions within the confines of practical safety, but this has little to do with speed limits, and therefore the risk of getting caught is still there.
Practical safety is what matters.
Best wishes all.
Dave.
x5x3 said:
you are forgeting several things;
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
1) if so many people are "breaking the law", including judges themselves! then there's something wrong with this particular law!
2) speed limits do not protect us from bad driving! That's just a very naive way of thinking. Constantly telling people that if they drive slow enough they're safe regardless, is just making it worse!
3) beleiving that staying within the speed limit = sensible driving is certainly not intelligent!
4) if we all "drive to the circumstances and the conditions" then we'll be breaking the law a lot of the time, if not most of the time!
x5x3 said:
you are forgeting several things;
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
In response:
1) I dont care about it being illegal to speed, in fact i do it cos it IS illegal, i like to do it and i will never do what "they" say. Bollocks to the scammers and to those who believe we should passively comply.
2) How does a speed limit protect any of us from an illegal driver, such as a DUI or stolen car?
3) Define "sensibly and with intelligence".
I would suggest at 4 am on almost any motorway that 120 mph could be deemed just that, yet i seriously doubt the "law" would see it that way.
4)Really? So if i drive at 35 in a 30 zone at 3am, taking into account the lack of people, the local conditions etc; if youre saying that a scammer sat in his Talivan wouldnt attempt to
me over for my "crime against the state", then youre almost as deluded as brunstrap! Reality check IS required.
Deltaf, 150 or 170 is ok on an empty motorway, when the only one to get hurt by your actions going wrong is yourself.... why do we have these fixed limits, when we are all capable of so much more? yesterday I drove down a narrow street, at 15-20mph, but it was a 30 limit. Also drove at 30 in a 40, because of the parked cars & numerous pedestrians loitering about.
But hey, exercise my judgement the other way, and dare to do 90 or 100 on that empty m-way, and I'm a crim?
Bah humbug!
But hey, exercise my judgement the other way, and dare to do 90 or 100 on that empty m-way, and I'm a crim?
Bah humbug!
Yeah Carl i know juuuuuust what you mean. They allow us to use our discretion and "get it right" at speeds below the limit when itd be stupid or dangerous to actually do that limit (legally), yet, as you say, go the other way OVER the limit and your a complete scumbag criminal pedo child killer...(compared to them by some)......
Its all a load of bollocks.....in my considered and somewhat restrained opinion...
Its all a load of bollocks.....in my considered and somewhat restrained opinion...
x5x3 said:
you are forgeting several things;
1) speeding is illegal.
2) whilst you may all be excellent drivers, the majority of the country are not, speed limits are there to protect us all from them.
3) driving "sensibly" and with any intelligence whatsoever does not place you at risk of being caught.
4) if you drive to the circumstances and the conditions then you will not get "caught"
1) Having illegal limits is illegal.
2) Inappropriate limits mean that the majority will never get any guidance on the appropriate speed for the conditions, but will very quickly learn that limits are inapprorpriate.
3) The majority will never learn to drive sensibly if they are taught to drive to appropriate maximum speed limits, never mind inappropriate ones.
4) If you drive to the limits you still get caught.
In fact, if you drive 10mph below the limit, or even as slow as under 10mph, you still get caught!
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