US of A - off the beaten track
US of A - off the beaten track
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V8mate

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45,899 posts

219 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Can anyone recommend any nice/interesting regions of the USA which are not the usual tourist destinations?

ViperDave

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283 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Washington state can get you off the usual mass tourist routes, still things to see such as the cascades, grand coulee dam, dry falls and the scab lands (read up about this before you go) Spokane, hells canyon on the snake river, head back via the Columbia river gorge and take in some touristy stuff at Mt St Helen's and Mt Rainer, maybe out to the Olympic peninsula before back to Seattle, Also the Boeing factory but that's a bit touristy. You can head down into Oregon for mt hood and crater lake also, chances of hearing an English chav <1%

RDMcG

20,889 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Go up to Canyon de Chelly in Az near the border with Utah, ....fantastically remote and beautiful...limited places to stay. Or go North from SF towards the Oregon border through Mendicino, and the Lost Coast all the way to Eureka. Stop at Ferndale for the mad museum there.

Spudler

3,985 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Last year we went East to West. The only bookings we had were the hotel in Washington and the flight home from San Francisco. We zig-zaged across country getting "off the beaten track" deliberatly. No Brits etc, just local people that probably hardly (if at all)come across tourists. Experiance ghost towns, its a different side of the U.S, and i'd say its the best holiday i've had to date.


Just a suggestion...might not be what your after at all.

ViperDave

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283 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Another trip we did was starting in phoenix, down to Cactus national park on the Mexico boarder and Tuscon, a visit to bio sphere 2 was good, across to Alamogordo and white sands NP, Roswell which sounds touristy but isn't really, Carlsbad caves and on to big bend np (that's pretty remote) back along the Mexico boarder and then up to Albuquerque and Santa Fe before heading back across towards the grand canyon stopping at painted desert, you could carry on to the grand canyon if you can stand a bit of mass tourist and haven't been but we cut the corner through the forests back to Phoenix.

Lots of driving, most of it remote and some fantastic and varied scenery, keep your passport handy when close to the Mexico boarder as there were checkpoints 50 miles "inland" the AZ and NM boarder patrol's were pretty relaxed but TX wanted to see the passport and stood around hand on gun whilst we got it out of the case, all good though!


koenig999

1,667 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Oregon, inland can get very quiet and non-touristy, quaint too.

Koenig

ViperDave

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283 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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koenig999 said:
Oregon, inland can get very quiet and non-touristy, quaint too.

Koenig
Very true, lots of trees though, we nearly got wiped out on a narrow back road cutting across to the back of mt hood, turned out to be mainly a logging road and the driver of the massive logging truck was as surprised to see us coming the other way as we were him, no doubt less worried for his existence than we were.

Edited by ViperDave on Sunday 8th August 23:23

sassthathoopie

969 posts

245 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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ViperDave said:
Washington state can get you off the usual mass tourist routes, still things to see such as the cascades, grand coulee dam, dry falls and the scab lands (read up about this before you go) Spokane, hells canyon on the snake river, head back via the Columbia river gorge and take in some touristy stuff at Mt St Helen's and Mt Rainer, maybe out to the Olympic peninsula before back to Seattle, Also the Boeing factory but that's a bit touristy. You can head down into Oregon for mt hood and crater lake also, chances of hearing an English chav <1%
^^^^^^^ This

Plus treat yourself to a visit to southern Utah in September. Warm weather but most of the tourists have left, and unlike most places in the US the distances between places of interest are reasonable.

Stay in Moab, if you've ever ridden a mountain bike before ride the slick rock on a rented full sus bike.
Arches NP - This is best done early in the morning. I watched the sunrise sat next to delicate arch - recommended.
Canyonlands NP- rent a Jeep Wrangler and have the most ridiculously good time as the only people in an entire valley. (there are over 100 to choose from)
Bryce Canyon NP - quite touristy this one, so just stop at the viewing point if people annoy you.
Zion Canyon NP - Will be crowded at the bottom, so either visit from the top or take one of the tough trails that the fatties can't handle. Angel's Landing is great fun.
Grand Staircase Escalante - looks awesome, but no one's ever heard of it - hence no one there.

I hate crowds too. You'll find that in most US national parks all you have to do is briskly walk for 5-10 minutes away from the car park/viewpoint and you'll be on your own in stunning surroundings (eg Yellowstone)

Also Wyoming/Montana if you like great mountains with no one around, and aren't fussed with 'culture'.

ViperDave

5,775 posts

283 months

Monday 9th August 2010
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Yellowstone in January is pretty quiet and breathtaking, not just because its so cold.





RDMcG

20,889 posts

237 months

Monday 9th August 2010
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Marfa, Tx?.......real remote , this one.........














ViperDave

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283 months

Monday 9th August 2010
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RDMcG said:
Marfa, Tx?.......real remote , this one
your not wrong, we stayed in marathon which is two towns over and one town too far on the way to big bend. the place had one hotel and a caravan park.

I think we stopped in Marfa for gas on the way back to van horn which by that stage seemed like a major city as it had a maccy d's.

I guess as two ph's have been there its out as too touristy!

RDMcG

20,889 posts

237 months

Monday 9th August 2010
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ViperDave said:
RDMcG said:
Marfa, Tx?.......real remote , this one
your not wrong, we stayed in marathon which is two towns over and one town too far on the way to big bend. the place had one hotel and a caravan park.

I think we stopped in Marfa for gas on the way back to van horn which by that stage seemed like a major city as it had a maccy d's.

I guess as two ph's have been there its out as too touristy!
Hey, Two's a crowd in Marfasmile

Lunja

502 posts

215 months

Monday 9th August 2010
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koenig999 said:
Oregon, inland can get very quiet and non-touristy, quaint too.

Koenig
Another vote for the North-West. You could add Vancouver, Canada to you itinerary if you decided to roadtrip around those parts...

An alternative 'off-the-beaten-track' destination would be the Oregon sand dunes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Dunes_National_Recreation_Area - it's so 'off-the-track' that the Wiki entry is tiny!). We were recommended it by a garage owner in Vancouver who was really into his offroading, so on our way down the Pacific Coast Highway we stopped and had a look. We found a tour company that takes groups of tourists out in large dune buggys and had an amazing hour being driven up, over and around the dunes at high speed. You'll be brushing sand out of your hair for weeks afterwards, but I can't recommend it highly enough!

V8mate

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45,899 posts

219 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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When I first saw 'Southern Comfort' as a teenager, I was really drawn to the scenes set within the 'rural' communities in Louisiana. That feeling of 'drawn to' but simultaneously a bit 'scared'.

Recently, watching 'True Blood', both my wife and I agree that we find those areas fascinating.

But, given that I'll be very much an outsider, who doesn't believe in God, can't stand Elvis and has many gay friends hehe is driving around within the triangle of New Orleans, Jackson and Shreveport likely to get me a warm welcome?

Beardy10

25,408 posts

205 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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ViperDave said:
RDMcG said:
Marfa, Tx?.......real remote , this one
your not wrong, we stayed in marathon which is two towns over and one town too far on the way to big bend. the place had one hotel and a caravan park.

I think we stopped in Marfa for gas on the way back to van horn which by that stage seemed like a major city as it had a maccy d's.

I guess as two ph's have been there its out as too touristy!
That's amazing....I was about to recommend Big Bend National Park! OP check it out on Google Images. Stunning scenery and a LONG way from anywhere.

ViperDave

5,775 posts

283 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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Beardy10 said:
ViperDave said:
RDMcG said:
Marfa, Tx?.......real remote , this one
your not wrong, we stayed in marathon which is two towns over and one town too far on the way to big bend. the place had one hotel and a caravan park.

I think we stopped in Marfa for gas on the way back to van horn which by that stage seemed like a major city as it had a maccy d's.

I guess as two ph's have been there its out as too touristy!
That's amazing....I was about to recommend Big Bend National Park! OP check it out on Google Images. Stunning scenery and a LONG way from anywhere.
About as remote as you are going to get in the developed world short of a road trip around Australia, but that's another story.

ViperDave

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283 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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V8mate said:
When I first saw 'Southern Comfort' as a teenager, I was really drawn to the scenes set within the 'rural' communities in Louisiana. That feeling of 'drawn to' but simultaneously a bit 'scared'.

Recently, watching 'True Blood', both my wife and I agree that we find those areas fascinating.

But, given that I'll be very much an outsider, who doesn't believe in God, can't stand Elvis and has many gay friends hehe is driving around within the triangle of New Orleans, Jackson and Shreveport likely to get me a warm welcome?
One year we drove the blue ridge parkway from Washington through Shenandoah and then onto the parkway all the way down to the smokies. We did it in spring and it was very quiet. Its amazing how you can drive all that way with the views out over the hills and mountains and not see any towns or roads, but turn off the parkway and you are only a few minutes away from a decent town or interstate. when we did it the views were amazing as there were no leaves on the trees, i would imagine it gets busy in the summer though.

There are some dodgy tourist traps on the route with real hill billy character and proper southern hospitality, when we did it no brit accents all the way, but it is a merkin tourist trap, especially when you get to pigeon forge on the opening day of dolly world, complete with dolly parton in a parade through town.

Edited by ViperDave on Saturday 14th August 22:23

Simon Brooks

1,527 posts

281 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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alaska, real wilderness and amazing scenery

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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Get off the freeway, search out the little places, you can even find some fun twisty roads. Basically, buy a road atlas at a level that shows the tiny roads and EXPLORE.

Solitude

1,902 posts

205 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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Head frm Denver to pheonix via Durango, stopping in Ridgeway, and Ouray. (you drive past Ralph Lauren's ranch for a round half an hour !!!)It's BIG !!!
On to bedrock, thru monument valley and mexican hat down to Grand canyon. (stay a while as it is not overated)
Moab is the nuts, and camping is the way to go there .(you can detour at Bedrock)
Happy trails