why not a race track in/ near aberdeen
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surely there is enough demand in scotland for 2 race tracks. theres plenty of land and plenty of rural enough area's. Not to mention a big enough population. ok knockhill lies close to 3 or 4 cities Glasgow,Edinburgh,Scumdee and Perth. But im sure enough would travel from Inverness Scumdee Perth and further afield would travel. how many aberdeen members do we have? we could club together and buy our own! 
Ive been thinking about this a lot as we have been trying to find a location to get andy walsh of carlimits up here to do some racing and high speed car control lessons. There is literaly nowhere we can get organised (even just a massive area of tarmac to set cones up etc at high eough speeds).
I would have thought that in some of the further north areas such as Fraserburgh or out towards Elgin there must be dissused air strips other than that at Lossiemouth or Inverness. If these were lying empty surely there may be a rural grant or something to help.
Im sure i also heard there was an airfield down near campbelltown for sale for a quid but it was about 3hr drive away from glasgow?
I would have thought that in some of the further north areas such as Fraserburgh or out towards Elgin there must be dissused air strips other than that at Lossiemouth or Inverness. If these were lying empty surely there may be a rural grant or something to help.
Im sure i also heard there was an airfield down near campbelltown for sale for a quid but it was about 3hr drive away from glasgow?
cc8s said:
Ascari was rumoured to have tried to try and build a racetrack near Aberdeen but the council over-ruled it because of noise pollution or something like that. Maybe someone knows more about it?
I worked on this back in the 80s, the land had been bought (and is still owned by Klaas) but there was a few objections from the white settlers who had moved up here for a quiet life and that was that!Aberdeen council said there was not a call for such a venue in Aberdeen and on that grounds they rejected it.
Several years earlier there was another joint venture that had the seme result.
I seem to recall the site at Ardesier being mentioned many years ago as a possibility, as it doesn't have much nearby to complain about noise, it's close to an airport and has lots of buildings on site that could be used as pit garages etc.
The downside is that it is quite remote (for large numbers of spectators to get there quickly and easily), mostly flat (not so good for spectating) and would take just as long to drive to as Knockhill from Aberdeen until the A96 is dualled all the way.
The biggest problem with a site within say 45 minutes of Aberdeen would be finding somewhere where there are no houses within a few miles, and even those en-route to a venue would complain about increased volume of traffic etc. Some isolated farms would probably be ideal, but you might need to buy nearby houses and land as well to avoid potential complaints. Ideally you would get a site that had natural sound deadening alreay (e.g. in a valley surrounded by tree covered hills).
It should be possible to identify a good site, but getting planning permission would be tricky, especially if the environmental lobby got involved "They plan to destroy the natural habitat of the rare but deadly skin burrowing weevil, and then race noisy and smelly cars and bikes on their graves...."
John
The downside is that it is quite remote (for large numbers of spectators to get there quickly and easily), mostly flat (not so good for spectating) and would take just as long to drive to as Knockhill from Aberdeen until the A96 is dualled all the way.
The biggest problem with a site within say 45 minutes of Aberdeen would be finding somewhere where there are no houses within a few miles, and even those en-route to a venue would complain about increased volume of traffic etc. Some isolated farms would probably be ideal, but you might need to buy nearby houses and land as well to avoid potential complaints. Ideally you would get a site that had natural sound deadening alreay (e.g. in a valley surrounded by tree covered hills).
It should be possible to identify a good site, but getting planning permission would be tricky, especially if the environmental lobby got involved "They plan to destroy the natural habitat of the rare but deadly skin burrowing weevil, and then race noisy and smelly cars and bikes on their graves...."
John
flipflop1 said:
Ive been thinking about this a lot as we have been trying to find a location to get andy walsh of carlimits up here to do some racing and high speed car control lessons. There is literaly nowhere we can get organised (even just a massive area of tarmac to set cones up etc at high eough speeds).
I would have thought that in some of the further north areas such as Fraserburgh or out towards Elgin there must be dissused air strips other than that at Lossiemouth or Inverness. If these were lying empty surely there may be a rural grant or something to help.
Im sure i also heard there was an airfield down near campbelltown for sale for a quid but it was about 3hr drive away from glasgow?
I was part of the team that used to set up the Milltown stages of the STRC, at the old RAF Milltown a couple of miles outside Lossie. Its an old airfield, now used as a secure comms/radio station, still under the MOD IIRC. But there used to be a private HGV/LGV training centre there, so some digging about may find out who/when/how etc.I would have thought that in some of the further north areas such as Fraserburgh or out towards Elgin there must be dissused air strips other than that at Lossiemouth or Inverness. If these were lying empty surely there may be a rural grant or something to help.
Im sure i also heard there was an airfield down near campbelltown for sale for a quid but it was about 3hr drive away from glasgow?
There was also a 1/4 mile event at RAF Edzell, just off the A90 between Dundee and Aberdeen, I went up once in the old Merc...was a decent place for it but I think the locals went bonkers because of the increased traffic going through their quiet litle village and it was canned
Edited by irodger on Wednesday 11th August 13:34
irodger said:
flipflop1 said:
Ive been thinking about this a lot as we have been trying to find a location to get andy walsh of carlimits up here to do some racing and high speed car control lessons. There is literaly nowhere we can get organised (even just a massive area of tarmac to set cones up etc at high eough speeds).
I would have thought that in some of the further north areas such as Fraserburgh or out towards Elgin there must be dissused air strips other than that at Lossiemouth or Inverness. If these were lying empty surely there may be a rural grant or something to help.
Im sure i also heard there was an airfield down near campbelltown for sale for a quid but it was about 3hr drive away from glasgow?
I was part of the team that used to set up the Milltown stages of the STRC, at the old RAF Milltown a couple of miles outside Lossie. Its an old airfield, now used as a secure comms/radio station, still under the MOD IIRC. But there used to be a private HGV/LGV training centre there, so some digging about may find out who/when/how etc.I would have thought that in some of the further north areas such as Fraserburgh or out towards Elgin there must be dissused air strips other than that at Lossiemouth or Inverness. If these were lying empty surely there may be a rural grant or something to help.
Im sure i also heard there was an airfield down near campbelltown for sale for a quid but it was about 3hr drive away from glasgow?
There was also a 1/4 mile event at RAF Edzell, just off the A90 between Dundee and Aberdeen, I went up once in the old Merc...was a decent place for it but I think the locals went bonkers because of the increased traffic going through their quiet litle village and it was canned
Edited by irodger on Wednesday 11th August 13:34
Edzell is closed due to noise
It seems that in Aberdeenshire the only way to get things done is simply to befriend the council members and have money.....Sir Ian Wood....Stewart Milne.....seem to have no problem securing their ambitions...Whether the general populous agrees or not
Planning & Cost.
Look at how much the last track in the UK cost as a benchmark< rockingham wasn't it?
I just fail to see how it could be built and profitable, there IMHO aint enough interested people, or people with enough cash, I am sure he aint exactly gutted missing out after building the ascari resort now
Look at how much the last track in the UK cost as a benchmark< rockingham wasn't it?
I just fail to see how it could be built and profitable, there IMHO aint enough interested people, or people with enough cash, I am sure he aint exactly gutted missing out after building the ascari resort now
ViperPict said:
Locals in Alford seem to enjoy the noise when there's an event at the small circuit at GTM!
Ever year there is a complaint at Alford from a certain individual who lives a good couple of miles away. The noise scrutineer went up with his noise check equipment and the local kids running around on their pushbikes turned out to be noisier than the cars at GTM. Just goes to show it just the fact its people enjoying a good day out that is the problem with some folks not the noise problem.Yeah Edzell ran Crail style quarter miles days aimed at the younger crowd but their license wasn't renewed due to complaints about noise and I think the driving of the people going to and from it.
It can still be hired out on a private basis for testing etc, but couldn't be used to run public events.
Unfortunately in this day and age where tracks that have existed for decades are struggling to stay open because of complaints from locals, I just can't imagine anyone being able to start up a new one. Which is a shame.
It can still be hired out on a private basis for testing etc, but couldn't be used to run public events.
Unfortunately in this day and age where tracks that have existed for decades are struggling to stay open because of complaints from locals, I just can't imagine anyone being able to start up a new one. Which is a shame.
Tinohead said:
Yeah Edzell ran Crail style quarter miles days aimed at the younger crowd but their license wasn't renewed due to complaints about noise and I think the driving of the people going to and from it.
It can still be hired out on a private basis for testing etc, but couldn't be used to run public events.
Unfortunately in this day and age where tracks that have existed for decades are struggling to stay open because of complaints from locals, I just can't imagine anyone being able to start up a new one. Which is a shame.
I didn't know Edzell could be hired out privately, interesting, maybe private individuals cars are quieter? Strange it closed for public events due to the noise when it used to be a USAF airforce base, the old yanks must have turned their fighter jet engines off when landing and taking off hey, bl@@dy kill joy locals, there's more sheep than locals, maybe that's what keeps the locals amuzed?!It can still be hired out on a private basis for testing etc, but couldn't be used to run public events.
Unfortunately in this day and age where tracks that have existed for decades are struggling to stay open because of complaints from locals, I just can't imagine anyone being able to start up a new one. Which is a shame.
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