ST220 key replacement
ST220 key replacement
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stigmundfreud

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

236 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Missus has only ever had 1 key since buying the car. Today she went to ford and asked for a spare, they told her 160 for the key then a few hours labour to code it.

I nearly drove down to tell the sales manager to stop being a but it appears ford like to gang rape its customers over a 10 quid part. Now, is there a DIY alternative to getting a spare and coding to the imobiliser?


anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Not checked the manual but you can deffo program one yourself, now the problem may be you need TWO keys to program another! Worth a quick check though. Keys are cheap as chips on eBay............

stigmundfreud

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

236 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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thats just for the alarm/door fob not the imobilisor chip. 160 quid plus hours of work

If I go in and the fkwit tries to convince me its a few hours work I'll gladly ask him to let me RTFM and I'll do the 10 minute job myself. Reflashing a 1k chip takes 3 hours labour, o'rly

Sorry for ranting, its a piss take.

anonymous-user

80 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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Arhh, really? What would be the point of the programming procedure only programming the open door part & not allowing you to start the car??!! Seems..er...wrong? I'll check the manual if i get a mo wink

killsta

1,840 posts

254 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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Indeed I think it's expensive regardless of the stealer you go to.

When I got my Focus ST I had two keys, but the remote one was rather shabby so I decided I'd treat myself to a new one.

Got a brand new key with uncut blade for £30 from eBay. £5 to get a local locksmith to cut the key. Then £40 to Ford to program it.

Job done, and wasn't TOO expensive.

finlo

4,330 posts

229 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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No need to go to a Ford dealer, instructions on how to code it to both immobilizer and remote locking are in th e handbook.

killsta

1,840 posts

254 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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Most likely the ability to code the immobiliser yourself will be disabled on the ECU so only stealers can do it. Was on mine frown

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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i think i may be able to do this with my system at work will check & get back to you smile

stigmundfreud

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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cheers neil, I'm not giving you the vxr8 though! wink

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
cheers neil, I'm not giving you the vxr8 though! wink
It does not need a computer its just a process you have to follow when you get your new key.

When you have your new key ready pm me your no & ill ring you & talk you through it smile

Its quite a bit of faffing though laugh

stigmundfreud

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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does it require 2 existing keys as we only have the one, also is this for the imob sync too?

Thanks

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
does it require 2 existing keys as we only have the one, also is this for the imob sync too?

Thanks
You have to program all the keys at the same time so i assume it wipes of any keys in the memory & starts again the only thing im unsure of is if you need a master key for it, but have a friend at a dealers who i will speak to in the week to find out the programming sequence is the same on my Focus so will have a go at that first smile

stigmundfreud

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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cheers! Its an 02 ST220 estate which might have different security to later ones but appreciate asking for us Neil.

nelly1

5,663 posts

257 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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You cannot program an additional key if you only have one.

If you have two, you can program a third, fourth, etc up to sixteen.

If you only have one, you can get another cut, but they must be programmed together with a WDS / IDS, and this procedure first wipes all the existing keys in the ECU.

The above is to deactivate the PATS and start the car with both keys.

You could get a second pushbutton key and program it to lock / unlock the doors but without the above procedure it will not start the car.

HTH.

ETA - there is no such thing as a 'Master' key.

Edited by nelly1 on Saturday 14th August 12:47

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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nelly1 said:
You cannot program an additional key if you only have one.

If you have two, you can program a third, fourth, etc up to sixteen.

If you only have one, you can get another cut, but they must be programmed together with a WDS / IDS, and this procedure first wipes all the existing keys in the ECU.

The above is to deactivate the PATS and start the car with both keys.

You could get a second pushbutton key and program it to lock / unlock the doors but without the above procedure it will not start the car.

HTH.

ETA - there is no such thing as a 'Master' key.

Edited by nelly1 on Saturday 14th August 12:47
scratchchin will ring Delphi about my machine see if it can program yours smile