BMW 1M
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E21_Ross

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36,729 posts

241 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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had to speak to bmw earlier, and the 1M is going to have 303bhp.

basically the same as the 135i then. so they must have made it a lighter car, or there wouldn't be any point. unless it just has uprated brakes, suspension etc?

thoughts?

aeropilot

40,629 posts

256 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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E21_Ross said:
had to speak to bmw earlier, and the 1M is going to have 303bhp.

basically the same as the 135i then. so they must have made it a lighter car, or there wouldn't be any point. unless it just has uprated brakes, suspension etc?

thoughts?
BMW haven't confirmed the spec of the 1M yet (and won't be for another few months at least) so whoever you talked to was BS'ing.

But it almost certainley will have at least 350hp from informed insider info.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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No spec confirmed yet, but PH are logging calls regularly as we are very excited by this car. The standard 135i is hooligan enough!

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Garlick said:
No spec confirmed yet, but PH are logging calls regularly as we are very excited by this car. The standard 135i is hooligan enough!
hooligan enough is not enough sometimes biggrin

The full fat version will, I suspect, challenge the E46 M3 CSL. And that is something.

krallicious

4,312 posts

234 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Mermaid said:
It looks like the front bumper has ducting for the brakes. Maybe this will be the first M-car that doesn't require an upgrade to enjoy it fully on track.

TommyBuoy

1,298 posts

196 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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krallicious said:
Mermaid said:
It looks like the front bumper has ducting for the brakes. Maybe this will be the first M-car that doesn't require an upgrade to enjoy it fully on track.
E36 M3 had brake ducting and I believe the brakes are one of the first things to upgrade for track work.

RobM77

35,349 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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303bhp would be absolutely fine, provided it weighs well under 1400kg and has excellent suspension, steering and throttle response.

krallicious

4,312 posts

234 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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TommyBuoy said:
krallicious said:
Mermaid said:
It looks like the front bumper has ducting for the brakes. Maybe this will be the first M-car that doesn't require an upgrade to enjoy it fully on track.
E36 M3 had brake ducting and I believe the brakes are one of the first things to upgrade for track work.
E92 has no ducting and the discs warp on track frown

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

293 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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TommyBuoy said:
krallicious said:
Mermaid said:
It looks like the front bumper has ducting for the brakes. Maybe this will be the first M-car that doesn't require an upgrade to enjoy it fully on track.
E36 M3 had brake ducting and I believe the brakes are one of the first things to upgrade for track work.
E39 M5 has brake ducting also I believe, from looking at the parts list yesterday.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Hooligan "enough" is never enough. hehe

Not having driven the 135i I'm not in a position to compare, but I'm hoping that the 1M goes properly hardcore, like the M3 GTS.

RobM77

35,349 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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krallicious said:
TommyBuoy said:
krallicious said:
Mermaid said:
It looks like the front bumper has ducting for the brakes. Maybe this will be the first M-car that doesn't require an upgrade to enjoy it fully on track.
E36 M3 had brake ducting and I believe the brakes are one of the first things to upgrade for track work.
E92 has no ducting and the discs warp on track frown
rofl Not much of an "M" car then is it?

Sorry, I shouldn't laugh, but I find it a bit ridiculous that BMW can make an M version of a car that can't handle track use.

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Gizmo! said:
Hooligan "enough" is never enough. hehe

Not having driven the 135i I'm not in a position to compare, but I'm hoping that the 1M goes properly hardcore, like the M3 GTS.
You'd love it, it reminded me of how M cars used to be. A fun car, but don't tell everyone as I want a cheap used one.

homerjay

1,249 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Garlick said:
Gizmo! said:
Hooligan "enough" is never enough. hehe

Not having driven the 135i I'm not in a position to compare, but I'm hoping that the 1M goes properly hardcore, like the M3 GTS.
You'd love it, it reminded me of how M cars used to be. A fun car, but don't tell everyone as I want a cheap used one.
Same here, not many below 20k yet though

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Gizmo! said:
Hooligan "enough" is never enough. hehe

Not having driven the 135i I'm not in a position to compare, but I'm hoping that the 1M goes properly hardcore, like the M3 GTS.
I have driven the 135i (own a 130i) and it is rapid. But it lacks the je ne sais quois that a full fledged M car has.

An Audi S5 will be fast, but the RS5 will always be that much better honed and possess greater depth.

Somehow I doubt it will go as hardcore as the M3 GTS - that is a world above ordinary M cars. smile

Speed_Demon

2,662 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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RobM77 said:
303bhp would be absolutely fine, provided it weighs well under 1400kg and has excellent suspension, steering and throttle response.
Read post before username, already knew it had to be you at "throttle response", lol.

Though you are right, a direct driving experience would be a fantastic change.

evenflow

8,876 posts

311 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Mermaid said:
I emailed news@pistonheads yesterday with a link to that video. I had received an email from the m-coupe closed room with a link to it, but nobody replied rolleyes

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Apologies. Riggers is on holiday and Chris is away driving the A7, hence your kind report being overlooked.


aeropilot

40,629 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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RobM77 said:
303bhp would be absolutely fine, provided it weighs well under 1400kg
Not going to happen....weight wise, and the engine will be at least *35iS spec if not a bit more....so that's a min of 335-340hp.

Judging by the, what appears to be, a now compromised spec to meet production timelines, it will a miracle if this 1M actually weigh LESS than a bare bones 135i...... but with a full wide track M3 chassis and M-LSD etc., it should handle and steer better than a 135i.

Bill

58,638 posts

284 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Garlick said:
You'd love it, it reminded me of how M cars used to be. A fun car, but don't tell everyone as I want a cheap used one.
You and every petrol head who can get over the looks biggrin