Can the head survive without the body?
Can the head survive without the body?
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Timmy35

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229 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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If someones head was chopped off cleany, whilst they were unconcious and nice and cold, and the main arteries and veins connected upto a blood supply, re-oxygenated, cleaned and supplied by a dialysis type machine, with the other holes cautorised to stop blood going all over the place, is there any reason why the head shouldn't continue living when it woke back up?

I read a while back that the Japanese had sucessfully swapped the heads on two dogs. So I was just wondering.

ETA. I'm not a wierdo, just curious.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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Yes. There isn't any magic involved. If you could replace the oxygen and nutrient supply you could keep someone's head in a jar for probably longer than their natural life.


(You're not going through a messy divorce, are you? I have disclaimers...)

mcbook

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206 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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There are stories that this procedure was successfully trialed in Nazi Germany in the early 40s.

In principle, it seems possible but morality is the main issue.

dmitsi

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251 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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I've seen Futurama, it can be done.

Justayellowbadge

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273 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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It's pronounced "Hfuhruhurr".

omgus

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206 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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Step very slowly away from the dog now Timmy, and put the knife down. wink

Heads have been recorded as moving lips and blinking eyes/focusing on people up to 15 seconds after decapitiation, so if you could mee the needs for the organ to keep functioning then i think yes but that does not allow you to go and try it.

KrazyIvan

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206 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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dmitsi said:
I've seen Futurama, it can be done.
That was the 1st thing I thought of hehe

Timmy35

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Monday 16th August 2010
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mcbook said:
There are stories that this procedure was successfully trialed in Nazi Germany in the early 40s.

In principle, it seems possible but morality is the main issue.
I can't see the moral issue, if they gave permission.

WorAl

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219 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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grumbledoak said:
Yes. There isn't any magic involved. If you could replace the oxygen and nutrient supply you could keep someone's head in a jar for probably longer than their natural life.


(You're not going through a messy divorce, are you? I have disclaimers...)
Is there any reason the brain would die if you kept the blood fresh and the nutrients/oxygen at an optimal level.

BliarOut

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270 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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Step away from the axe...

sleep envy

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280 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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BliarOut said:
Step away from the axe...
is that an inner dialogue or advice?

The Hitman

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241 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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Well they would need some sort of reperation unit to act like lung do to allow them to speak unless you want them to turn senile as being unable to comunicate.

omgus

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Monday 16th August 2010
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The Hitman said:
Well they would need some sort of reperation unit to act like lung do to allow them to speak unless you want them to turn senile as being unable to comunicate.
When someone called The Hitman talks about severed heads it does add a certain weight to their words.

ali_kat

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252 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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Timmy35 said:
I'm not a wierdo
yes you are biggrin

Justayellowbadge

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273 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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The lounge is evidence that many bodies are able to function and type with no discernible evidence of a head being attached.

grumbledoak

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Monday 16th August 2010
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WorAl said:
Is there any reason the brain would die if you kept the blood fresh and the nutrients/oxygen at an optimal level.
If you prevent the usual causes of death (heart or liver failure in the end) I'd imagine the head would go senile.

It'd be something like Kryten's spare head collection in Red Dwarf.

Timmy35

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Monday 16th August 2010
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BliarOut said:
Step away from the axe...
  • / rubs forehead involuntarily. I still get headaches.
Anyway this is decapitation I'm thinking about, as opposed to vertically seperating the left and right hemishpheres with blunt trauma.

Imagine the possibilities, if you can do that, you can have heads controlling machines, piloting space ships etc. Why bother sending the entire body into space if you can send just the head.

also usually it's the body that fails, not the brain, so longeivty would be much greater, very much greater, useful for long term space travel.

The Hitman

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241 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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omgus said:
The Hitman said:
Well they would need some sort of reperation unit to act like lung do to allow them to speak unless you want them to turn senile as being unable to comunicate.
When someone called The Hitman talks about severed heads it does add a certain weight to their words.
You have to pay extra for this service obviously hehe

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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Timmy35 said:
Imagine the possibilities, if you can do that, you can have heads controlling machines, piloting space ships etc. Why bother sending the entire body into space if you can send just the head.
where would you keep it, in a jar?


Plotloss

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301 months

Monday 16th August 2010
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