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richieboy3008

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2,058 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th August 2010
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Hi all,

With second baby due next Jan I'm might look at getting something slighty bigger than the Primera I run at the moment. Must cost no more than 6k, diesel, and manual.

I was thinking:

Honda Accord touring, (huge boot)

or

Nissan X-trail (higher up so don't ruin back when loading baby)

Anyone got experiences with these cars?

MPoxon

5,329 posts

202 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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tumbleweed

Vidal Baboon

9,074 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Accord Tourer is a good 'proper' sized estate car, same as the bigger Volvos & Audis.

Things like the SAAB 9-3, V50, X-Type, 159 & A4 etates have no more useable room than a modern hatchback.
The Volvo V50 boot is compromised to to a high boot floor and the rest have wheel wells which intrude too far into the boot meaning you can't lie the pram flat across the boot. Same goes for the rest although IIRC the X-Type had a reasonable boot.

New shape Passat, Accord, A6 Avant, Volvo V70 E Class & Vectra have what IMO consider to be an estate car boot the rest are form over function.


People will argue later on that they fitted a family of 6 into a Mini when they were a lad & endured 8hr trips to Cornwall, so you should also.

Boo frikin hoo. Get over it.


ETA

Back on topic, if I was buying again I'd go for the Passat, but get a TFSI petrol one. My diesel plays up far too much for my liking.

X-Trail looks good, but not sold on the looks. We looked at the RAV-4 but the boot was no bigger that the Leon it was replacing, so guessing the X-Trail may be the same?


Edited by Vidal Baboon on Wednesday 25th August 23:07

richieboy3008

Original Poster:

2,058 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Vidal Baboon said:
Accord Tourer is a good 'proper' sized estate car, same as the bigger Volvos & Audis.

Things like the SAAB 9-3, V50, X-Type, 159 & A4 etates have no more useable room than a modern hatchback.
The Volvo V50 boot is compromised to to a high boot floor and the rest have wheel wells which intrude too far into the boot meaning you can't lie the pram flat across the boot. Same goes for the rest although IIRC the X-Type had a reasonable boot.

New shape Passat, Accord, A6 Avant, Volvo V70 E Class & Vectra have what IMO consider to be an estate car boot the rest are form over function.


People will argue later on that they fitted a family of 6 into a Mini when they were a lad & endured 8hr trips to Cornwall, so you should also.

Boo frikin hoo. Get over it.


ETA

Back on topic, if I was buying again I'd go for the Passat, but get a TFSI petrol one. My diesel plays up far too much for my liking.

X-Trail looks good, but not sold on the looks. We looked at the RAV-4 but the boot was no bigger that the Leon it was replacing, so guessing the X-Trail may be the same?


Edited by Vidal Baboon on Wednesday 25th August 23:07
Good info there, thanks. What has been going wrong with your Passat, I've also considered these?

Edited by richieboy3008 on Thursday 26th August 15:39

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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richieboy3008 said:
second baby due next Jan I'm might look at getting something slighty bigger than the Primera
What size are you babies that you can't fit two of them in a Primera?!?

richieboy3008

Original Poster:

2,058 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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HellDiver said:
richieboy3008 said:
second baby due next Jan I'm might look at getting something slighty bigger than the Primera
What size are you babies that you can't fit two of them in a Primera?!?
Buggy takes up all of the boot, a pain if we ever go away on holiday. Plus the drivers seat doesn't go far enough back for me, I find it very uncomfortable after about 30 mins of driving.

MPoxon

5,329 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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HellDiver said:
richieboy3008 said:
second baby due next Jan I'm might look at getting something slighty bigger than the Primera
What size are you babies that you can't fit two of them in a Primera?!?
LOL

Sand1

545 posts

224 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Skoda Octavia would be a good choice. I paid 6k for mine last year, 06 plate Laurin & Klement 2.0 TDi 140 BHP. It's fully loaded with heated leather, sat nav, xenons, cruise etc. Alot of car for the money with a huge boot.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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I have got a 2005 Accord Tourer, mine is a petrol though! It does have a very big boot! I think at the time it was largest in class when it came out! It is very well put together and rides and handles well for a big car too!

richieboy3008

Original Poster:

2,058 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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MonkeyMatt said:
I have got a 2005 Accord Tourer, mine is a petrol though! It does have a very big boot! I think at the time it was largest in class when it came out! It is very well put together and rides and handles well for a big car too!
Yes, the boot is huge, the only problem with Honda's is their relatively poor fuel consumption.

richieboy3008

Original Poster:

2,058 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Sand1 said:
Skoda Octavia would be a good choice. I paid 6k for mine last year, 06 plate Laurin & Klement 2.0 TDi 140 BHP. It's fully loaded with heated leather, sat nav, xenons, cruise etc. Alot of car for the money with a huge boot.
Hmmm, I quite like the look of these, and you do get a lot for the money.

Pints

18,451 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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richieboy3008 said:
MonkeyMatt said:
I have got a 2005 Accord Tourer, mine is a petrol though! It does have a very big boot! I think at the time it was largest in class when it came out! It is very well put together and rides and handles well for a big car too!
Yes, the boot is huge, the only problem with Honda's is their relatively poor fuel consumption.
Yes, but they tend to spend less time being repaired.

If you like the VAG route, why not consider a Touran? We've got 2 little 'uns and although the estate is fine when it's just the 4 of us, we can't have Nana Pints or anybody else in the car with us.

Vidal Baboon

9,074 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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richieboy3008 said:
Vidal Baboon said:
Accord Tourer is a good 'proper' sized estate car, same as the bigger Volvos & Audis.

Things like the SAAB 9-3, V50, X-Type, 159 & A4 etates have no more useable room than a modern hatchback.
The Volvo V50 boot is compromised to to a high boot floor and the rest have wheel wells which intrude too far into the boot meaning you can't lie the pram flat across the boot. Same goes for the rest although IIRC the X-Type had a reasonable boot.

New shape Passat, Accord, A6 Avant, Volvo V70 E Class & Vectra have what IMO consider to be an estate car boot the rest are form over function.


People will argue later on that they fitted a family of 6 into a Mini when they were a lad & endured 8hr trips to Cornwall, so you should also.

Boo frikin hoo. Get over it.


ETA

Back on topic, if I was buying again I'd go for the Passat, but get a TFSI petrol one. My diesel plays up far too much for my liking.

X-Trail looks good, but not sold on the looks. We looked at the RAV-4 but the boot was no bigger that the Leon it was replacing, so guessing the X-Trail may be the same?


Edited by Vidal Baboon on Wednesday 25th August 23:07
Good info there, thanks. What has been going wrong with your Passat, I've also considered these?

Edited by richieboy3008 on Thursday 26th August 15:39
  • Engine management issues (overboosting- apparently caused by a coked up turbo), i've been running it on V-Power & not had any issues since.
  • Airbag light
  • Wheelbearings
  • Rust on the tailgateyikes
  • Eats tyres- they're not cheap because of the weird size (235/45/17) & need to be reinforced (97 rating)
I'd go for an Accord Tourer TDi, or V6 diesel A6. It'll be all the (family) car you'll ever need.

motorway

12 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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We have a 2.0tdi 140 Passat estate, huge boot. just done camping trip to Newquay cornwall with 2 adults and 3 boys. there is enough room in the boot for luggage for the five of us plus 2 four man tents sleeping bags etc... then there was the 5 mountain bikes.

economy was good too on the trip there we got 54mpg and an overall average for the week with trips out was 47.9mpg. very good for a car this size and plenty power too 6th gear all the way from j18 on the M6 to within 3 miles of the camp site.

the passat is also used for business trips and carries loads well 645kg payload is no problem and handling is not compromised 75mph on motorways is still safely done.

Dino D

1,953 posts

250 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Also looking at family wagons and I used to be an advocate of getting estate cars over MPV/Higher type cars but have realised somethings. A higher seat, especially at the rear is nice to have, wide door openings also good. Driving pleasure, ie handling etc is out the window really as with kids on board cruising at speed limits and not barreling into corners, everything feels a bland.

Have you looked at MPV type cars, a bit higher than estates, good boot room and a nice large boot opening and not as compromised on road as something like an Xtrail. Sat in Corolla verso and Honda FR-V and both impressed with good interior room, easy access and good size boots without being huge on the outside.
As we don;t do many long trips but many short town trips ease of parking, ingress, visibility are more NB than handling or power etc.

If you like the Skoda Octavia estae but want a bit more height look out for their 'scout' version of the same car.

I can't believe that I am preferring things like this over a BMW/AUDI estate but priorities change...

zimmerman

166 posts

224 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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richieboy3008 said:
Sand1 said:
Skoda Octavia would be a good choice. I paid 6k for mine last year, 06 plate Laurin & Klement 2.0 TDi 140 BHP. It's fully loaded with heated leather, sat nav, xenons, cruise etc. Alot of car for the money with a huge boot.
Hmmm, I quite like the look of these, and you do get a lot for the money.
I've just ordered a vRS model - utterly huge boot without the car being the size of an oil tanker.

nottyash

4,671 posts

224 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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zimmerman said:
richieboy3008 said:
Sand1 said:
Skoda Octavia would be a good choice. I paid 6k for mine last year, 06 plate Laurin & Klement 2.0 TDi 140 BHP. It's fully loaded with heated leather, sat nav, xenons, cruise etc. Alot of car for the money with a huge boot.
Hmmm, I quite like the look of these, and you do get a lot for the money.
I've just ordered a vRS model - utterly huge boot without the car being the size of an oil tanker.
I knocked a dealer down from just over £21000 for a white diesel VRS in the showroom down to £16000 if I did the deal that day.
Online i could get a factory order car and save another £300 on that.
It pays to shop around.

murray walker

70 posts

193 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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richieboy3008 said:
Hi all,

With second baby due next Jan I'm might look at getting something slighty bigger than the Primera I run at the moment. Must cost no more than 6k, diesel, and manual.

I was thinking:

Honda Accord touring, (huge boot)

or

Nissan X-trail (higher up so don't ruin back when loading baby)

Anyone got experiences with these cars?
The best family car is Mercedes S-Klasse. It's bigger than Primera, it could be diesel, not sure about manual and it could be 6K (if W140 and from albanian dealer). Running costs will be reasonable if there's no leak.

richieboy3008

Original Poster:

2,058 posts

212 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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murray walker said:
richieboy3008 said:
Hi all,

With second baby due next Jan I'm might look at getting something slighty bigger than the Primera I run at the moment. Must cost no more than 6k, diesel, and manual.

I was thinking:

Honda Accord touring, (huge boot)

or

Nissan X-trail (higher up so don't ruin back when loading baby)

Anyone got experiences with these cars?
The best family car is Mercedes S-Klasse. It's bigger than Primera, it could be diesel, not sure about manual and it could be 6K (if W140 and from albanian dealer). Running costs will be reasonable if there's no leak.
What a great idea!

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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richieboy3008 said:
MonkeyMatt said:
I have got a 2005 Accord Tourer, mine is a petrol though! It does have a very big boot! I think at the time it was largest in class when it came out! It is very well put together and rides and handles well for a big car too!
Yes, the boot is huge, the only problem with Honda's is their relatively poor fuel consumption.
The diesels have prety good fuel consumption!