which camera should i get?

which camera should i get?

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white_van_man

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3,846 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th March 2004
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im thinking of buying a ned digi camera and iv chosed 2 i like, fugi finepix s5000 and the fugi finepix f610
im open to suggestions for other ones i will be taking lots of cool car shots and le mans and some high speed mountain biking shots in frace

Edt

5,103 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th March 2004
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white_van_man said:
im thinking of buying a ned digi camera and iv chosed 2 i like, fugi finepix s5000 and the fugi finepix f610
im open to suggestions for other ones i will be taking lots of cool car shots and le mans and some high speed mountain biking shots in frace


BEWARE the Fuji that claims a zillion and one pixels.. its a fib. Nacnud on here raves about his Canon Powershot S45 or s50 (cant remember which). His snaps are certainly excellent

Ed

whittaker52

1,031 posts

255 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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I can highly recommend canon cameras especially the G series cameras like the G3 and G5.

murph7355

37,737 posts

256 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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Another vote for Canon:

Compact, easy to use - get an Ixus (400 or 500).

Slightly less compact but with manual controls too - S50.

Full monty - EOS 300D, 10D or 1D depending on your budget and how much time you want to spend taking photos!

Nacnud

2,190 posts

269 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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Another vote for Canon.
Especially as the superb Powershot S50 can be had for as little as £280 delivered to your door.

SLR v Compact is a BIG discussion.
Lots of threads on PH.
S50 is more than capable of A3 so quality is not an issue. S50 has the same controls/metering as the semi-professional EOS 5, so controlability is not an issue. The only real issues are interchangeable lenses and external flash (if your SLR supports it), and size and weight really count against an SLR in 'normal' use.

ehasler

8,566 posts

283 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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Another vote here for Canon.

You generally get more features and higher quality the bigger the camera and higher the price, so you need to decide what features are most important to you, then try a few out - Jessops usually have quite a large range in stock.

DustyC

12,820 posts

254 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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I have used some Fuji compact digitals which were good but only SLR-D from Canon which is fantastic. (10D and 300D).

Id still always go for Canon though (I have a Canon EOS300 SLR).

The range of accesories for Canon also seems to be bigger than for any other manufacturer.

murph7355

37,737 posts

256 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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The lens situation is THE selling point of SLRs over compacts. A proper range of high quality lenses is the only way to be properly equipped. Of course, you pay for that in size and weight (and moolah).

Other points to note - good as compacts are, they do not have the same range of manual controls (arguably you don't need this with a digital and photoshop, but always wise to get the picture right straight from the lens/camera if you can).

Also, and SLR will typically have a better viewfinder image, more closely representing what you're going to get as you're looking through the lens.

Again, this advantage is diminished slightly as the <35mm sensors in digital SLRs mean the actual view isn't perfect, and LCD screens as "viewfinders" are getting pretty good these days too...

mustard

6,992 posts

245 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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Wants a Canon Ixus 430 does'nt he Murph.... check earlier thread "confused tell what i really need" for best prices too!

Nacnud

2,190 posts

269 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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murph7355 said:
Other points to note - good as compacts are, they do not have the same range of manual controls (arguably you don't need this with a digital and photoshop, but always wise to get the picture right straight from the lens/camera if you can).

Also, and SLR will typically have a better viewfinder image, more closely representing what you're going to get as you're looking through the lens.


S50 has same metering modes (including spot), same shutter advance modes, same flash controls (compensation and curtain) as the EOS 5. I've got a 5 and I'm not kidding. Manual focus (tick) Macro (tick) Depth of field preview (tick) Exposure bracketing (tick). How much more image control do you want ?

The built in S50 lens has better critical sharpness than four of the five EOS lenses I have. Only need to change would be for ultra wide angle and telephoto shots and unless you are doing serious motorsport photography then you can probably live without a telephoto lens.

I rarely use the viewfinder except when taking motorsport pictures. I find it much easier to compose on the LCD. Hence viewfinder is not really a serious issue.

I originally bought my S40 just to take website piccies, but then I discovered just how good the image quality is. Now, I rarely use my EOS 5. When I do use the 5 I love the weight and feel of the camera and the shutter noise is drop dead gorgeous, but overall I still prefer to use the S40.

Last comment on the S40.
It looks bloomin stupid stuck on the top of a chunky Uni-Loc tripod but it's needed for ultimate image quality (just like an SLR).

Edt

5,103 posts

284 months

Sunday 28th March 2004
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Erm... of course now read this 'we love Canon' thread.. I've got a terrific Olympus digital SLR that I bought 2nd hand, approx the same price as an s50. It is very, very, very, very good.

I like it.

Regards, Ed

srider

709 posts

282 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Edt said:
Erm... of course now read this 'we love Canon' thread.. I've got a terrific Olympus digital SLR that I bought 2nd hand, approx the same price as an s50. It is very, very, very, very good.

I like it.

Regards, Ed


Is it an E10? If so, it's a good camera, but not an SLR, as the lens is fixed.

david010167

1,397 posts

263 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Well, back to the I love Canon thread for a moment.

The G5 is a great compact camera that has some pro-summer controls, allowing control of DOF and speed as well as a myriad of other functions. I love it.

www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/g5.html

The 10D is also a great camera at the other end of the scale and buying lenses for it is great, flexible and can rapidly become expensive, but it will give you far more control than a compact, get a good lense like the 70-200 L IS and you have some great potential to take a good picture.

www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/10d.html

There is a third solution, go for a high-end compact such at the new Canon PowerShot Pro1.

www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/pro1.html

I have the G5 and the 10D and think they are both great cameras, the 300D is also a very good camera with great reviews if you want to go the DSLR route. The Pro1 is new, but I have seen the outpout it generates and it is a very good camera indeed.

David

DustyC

12,820 posts

254 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Jessops are doing a deal on an EOS300D kit at the moment. Not sure exactly whats in the kit but the price may be competitive.

gravymaster

1,857 posts

248 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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the sony cybershot dsc f717 is the best prosumer digital camera for the money. Its got 5 stars in every review ive seen and the quality of images is excellent (5 million pixels and carl zeiss lenses). See for yourself at www.gravynet.com/photos

btw. Got mine new for 340 quid.

Edt

5,103 posts

284 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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srider said:

Edt said:
Erm... of course now read this 'we love Canon' thread.. I've got a terrific Olympus digital SLR that I bought 2nd hand, approx the same price as an s50. It is very, very, very, very good.

I like it.

Regards, Ed



Is it an E10? If so, it's a good camera, but not an SLR, as the lens is fixed.


hmmm. the Olympus packaging reads SLR... surely an SLR isnt defined by the ability to swap lenses ?

Regards, Ed

ehasler

8,566 posts

283 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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No - an SLR is a camera where the same lens is used to view through and take the picture.

moreymach

1,029 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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Well no one seems to like fuji's here.. Ive got an S5000 and cant say Ive been disappointed by it. Its quite big and bulky but very solid and has the 10x optical zoom and as many manual features as you can shake a stick at all for around £250

www.unbeatable.co.uk/CatalogueItem_14463.html

The only down side I have noticed is the slow shutter reaction ..not much good for your sports shots.. though it does have a function to take a series of 1 megapixel shots at 5 fps and only saving the last 5 before you release the shutter button thus allowing you to pre guess the action a little.

Id buy the S5000 again.

beano500

20,854 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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moreymach said:
Well no one seems to like fuji's here.. Ive got an S5000 and cant say Ive been disappointed by it. Its quite big and bulky but very solid and has the 10x optical zoom and as many manual features as you can shake a stick at all for around £250


And Ebuyer has the 5000 at a good price here

Edt

5,103 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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for full reviews checkout www.dpreview.com

he tells it likes it is !

Regards, Ed