Petrol Prices
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pilchardthecat

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7,483 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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So now i'm going to be living with 22mpg instead of 47mpg, this suddenly becomes important to me. Especially as i seem to be popping out for milk, posting unimportant letters at peculiar times of day, that sort of thing.

Please speculate wildly about the wallet-impact of retail vehicle fuel over the next year or two.

Posts which demonstrate some knowledge of light crude futures trading, sterling exchange rates, tax policy or some other factor which has a tangible effect on the fuel price are preferred over those which link to Daily Mail articles.




Dick_Phallus

1,155 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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pilchardthecat said:
So now i'm going to be living with 22mpg instead of 47mpg, this suddenly becomes important to me. Especially as i seem to be popping out for milk, posting unimportant letters at peculiar times of day, that sort of thing.

Please speculate wildly about the wallet-impact of retail vehicle fuel over the next year or two.

Posts which demonstrate some knowledge of light crude futures trading, sterling exchange rates, tax policy or some other factor which has a tangible effect on the fuel price are preferred over those which link to Daily Mail articles.
Should have thought about this before you took the plunge! Get ready to feel sick every time you fill up from now on, and it'll only get worse...

v8will

3,310 posts

225 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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The smart money is in agricultural commodities not so much oil futures. Why? increased demand for bio fuels, increasing demand from developing countries, water shortages etc. Oil prices will pick up at some point and it isn't like anymore is being made anytime soon.

Taxation will be the killer in the short term and supply in the long term so I say enjoy it while your wallet can stand it.

Alfafan

20 posts

248 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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My simple take on fuel prices, they will follow the long term trend, upwards. Supply and demand will dictate an accelerated upward trend over the next few years.

Swarley

5,278 posts

260 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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I used to stress about the price of fuel. Until someone on ph pointed out to me that; "fuel is cheap, compared to what it will be".

Wadeski

9,029 posts

242 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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VAT going up next year will be a nasty shock. Fuel duty like to go up at the same time, and of course VAT is calculated on top...

Menguin

3,781 posts

250 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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I imagine soon it will be over £1 a litre over here frown

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Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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At the current price c.£1.20 a litre (say £5.50 a gallon) a car which averages 27 mpg will use

£20,000 of petrol to cover 100,000 miles!

I used to think depreciation was the expensive bit of running a car....

pilchardthecat

Original Poster:

7,483 posts

208 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
At the current price c.£1.20 a litre (say £5.50 a gallon) a car which averages 27 mpg will use

£20,000 of petrol to cover 100,000 miles!

I used to think depreciation was the expensive bit of running a car....
it is for me, or at least it was. Last 2 years (12k miles/yr)

depreciation; £4500/year
fuel; £1500/year

i'v just doubled the fuel costs, but i wonder what the depreciation will be on the z4m.....

carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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I've no doubt the trend is upward... However Sainsburys near me has come down to 111.9 per litre which is the cheapest it's been for a long while. Luckily I coincided my fill-up with a shopping trip- £50 spend gives a further 5p p/l off, which on the Barge equated to an extra fiver saved!

Anyway, what's all this bleating about 22mpg? My A8 does 10 around town!

marshalla

15,902 posts

230 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
At the current price c.£1.20 a litre (say £5.50 a gallon) a car which averages 27 mpg will use
£5.50/gallon = 69p/pint (approx) - still cheaper than beer.

Morningside

24,147 posts

258 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Oddly. I am finding that unleaded is going down. Yesterday £114.9 and diesel at £119.9. Not bad.

remedy

2,275 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Morningside said:
Oddly. I am finding that unleaded is going down. Yesterday £114.9 and diesel at £119.9. Not bad.
You're being ripped off. Or are you from the future?

pilchardthecat

Original Poster:

7,483 posts

208 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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marshalla said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
At the current price c.£1.20 a litre (say £5.50 a gallon) a car which averages 27 mpg will use
£5.50/gallon = 69p/pint (approx) - still cheaper than beer.
I don't drink 90 pints of beer a week though.....

Morningside

24,147 posts

258 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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remedy said:
Morningside said:
Oddly. I am finding that unleaded is going down. Yesterday £114.9 and diesel at £119.9. Not bad.
You're being ripped off. Or are you from the future?
Welcome to Suffolk. frown

Hughesie

12,790 posts

311 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Morningside said:
Oddly. I am finding that unleaded is going down. Yesterday £114.9 and diesel at £119.9. Not bad.
Same here, except i'm paying 111.9ppl

hyperblue

2,910 posts

209 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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pilchardthecat said:
marshalla said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
At the current price c.£1.20 a litre (say £5.50 a gallon) a car which averages 27 mpg will use
£5.50/gallon = 69p/pint (approx) - still cheaper than beer.
I don't drink 90 pints of beer a week though.....
But if you did, you wouldn't have to worry about petrol prices. HTH.

jagracer

8,248 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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22mpg, luxury. I'm on about 19-20mpg with a diesel and oddly enough it'll only go to around 22mpg when I'm towing a trailer on a run. I've given up worrying about it now and try and economise by not driving if I don't have to.

zakelwe

4,449 posts

227 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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pilchardthecat said:
So now i'm going to be living with 22mpg instead of 47mpg
For going to the shops I use this



78mpg and that's after the Superchips conversion. It's a Yaris now with 112bhp and yet still manages to send me completely to sleep every time I drive it. It's a perfect A to B car, it's the antithesis of PH though.

Getting back to the point, if there is a world recovery I can only see petrol prices going up. Also, to add to the woes, the pound is not very good against the dollar and so you might find that the price of a barrel goes to $100+ and the exchange rate stays low. I can well imagine a litre being 130p in the next year. frown It will therefore be £55 per fill up to go 650 miles madmad

But I will probably be too comatose to even notice. At least you will be having fun.

Andy


Edited by zakelwe on Sunday 22 August 15:53

MacG

318 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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UK bond yields are forecast to increase which will go hand in hand with Sterling becoming comparatively strong - including relative to the US dollar where short term monetary policy is going to cause a softening in the mid-term. All of this will ease upstream margins and cause a 6-12 month decline in retail pump prices in the UK of 3-4.7% (3.5 - 5.5 pence per litre).

In the UK, longer term inflationary pressures will prompt a gradual increase in interest rates, further strengthening Sterling. Unfortunately this will be offset by reduced forecast upstream productivity which, in turn, will cause headline dollar prices to rise. So the 12-24 month prognosis is a restoration of current fuel prices.

I have made all of this up, without reference to anything factual. Good luck with the thirsty car.