The Conservatives pledge on motorist

[frosted]

So , happy you voted conservative ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...

Edited by frosted on Sunday 22 August 23:11

[Fittster]

"Motorists across the country could be charged hundreds of pounds a year to park at work after councils were ordered by the Government to find new ways of raising money."

[NiceCupOfTea]

Do you think Labour would have done differently? We would have that and a whole raft of other anti-motorist policies going on too.

[eharding]

frosted said:

So , happy you voted conservative ?

Obviously, you silly sod.

If Labour had won, Gordon Brown wouldn't be a mental-health-care out-patient as he is now, he'd be Prime Minister, and we'd have all manner of out-there-tap-dancing-with-pixies ste to deal with.

The current incumbents are trying to sort out the criminal mis-management of the past 13 years.

Some of that is going to sting, but you have to remember who brought the pain. Labour.

We're going in the right direction.

Once we have Brown and Blair (and all of the horrible crew) brought to book for war crimes, treasonable negligence in the conduct of fiscal policy, and manifest corruption - and are duly sentenced to be recycled as landfill - the happier, healthier, and on the road to final healing this country will be.

Unless you're saying I should have voted uber-right-wing fruitcake-no-hope-badger, who are merely a distraction.

[tank slapper]

frosted said:

So , happy you voted conservative ?

People keep saying this, but we don't have a Conservative government, we have a coalition government. As such, it is highly likely that what happens is going to be different to what was intended prior to the election. Some things that were intended to happen probably now won't. Some things that were not intended to happen probably now will. Surely this isn't such a hard concept to understand?

What has prompted this story now anyway? As far as I can tell nothing has changed since it last appeared.

[5unny]

We need to make sure local government can raise as much funds as they need. This will ensure the top notch 'value for money' service which is provided to tax payers can be maintained.

I mean it's not as if councils are going to piss away any money on bullst schemes is it.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2010/08/19/the-3-2m-bus-lan...

[WhoseGeneration]

frosted said:

So , happy you voted conservative ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...

Edited by frosted on Sunday 22 August 23:11

Yes, because I felt a burden lifted from my shoulders, I say this as one who is more Left than Right.
That'd be Libertarian Left though.
NuLabour was never Libertarian.
Now, this possible tax, well, local councils that introduce it might find it becomes an issue at local election time.
Or, it becomes a burden on employers, raising their overheads.
You tell us how the deficit is to be brought under control, rather than sniping from the sidelines.

[AndrewW-G]

Would this be the same workplace parking tax that the Nazi / Communist / Who cares about the UK as long as we get millions in bribes party labour party brought in BEFORE the election ?

I find it almost amusing, that even though we are all aware that the former prime minister, has such huge mental issues, that he’s only been able to get a full day release to travel to Westminster 3 times since the election.
Yet there are still people so incredibly blinkered that they would prefer the UK to be run by the shinig light of the care in the community scheme, rather than by the Conservatives / Lib Dems.

I think it may not just be racistdud007 and winky who are in need of an increase in medication

[Pesty]

AndrewW-G said:

Would this be the same workplace parking tax that the Nazi / Communist / Who cares about the UK as long as we get millions in bribes party labour party brought in BEFORE the election ?

:

Not only was this sothing utrd by th rlast goovernment I remeber it being talked about on here at the time.

just shows to me that it does not atter who is in they are all the same

[thinfourth2]

frosted said:

So , happy you voted conservative ?

I didn't

[odyssey2200]

This is what you have to worry about

Drivers Alliance Website said:

The EU's Road Pricing project - Coming to the UK!

How many road users have heard of the Trans-European Network - Transport or TEN-T as it more commonly known?

How many road users know that parts of the UK’s strategic road and rail network are currently classified by the EU as part of that TEN-T network?

How many road users know that there is currently a consultation running, published by the DfT, to give the EU greater control of yet more of our strategic transport infrastructure or, to “seek views about the methodology for reviewing the current TEN-T programme, its policy objectives and the TEN-T financing instruments”?

The principles behind the EU commissions £755billion TEN-T project is to develop an international core network of integrated transport routes throughout Europe to “increase efficiency, safety and interconnectivity while reducing journey times and congestion”. The Commission has indicated that priority will be given to measures that further its policy goals of the “Europe 2020” climate change strategy, energy, environment and innovation.

Given the Coalitions promise to end the war on motorists, why should such an anodyne document cause such concern?

Central to the TEN-T project is the field of Intelligent Transport Systems (ITS). The Galileo satellite supported technology is seen as vital to TEN-T’s aims to manage traffic, eliminate bottlenecks and meet greenhouse gas targets. As this EU Commission presentation demonstrates, road pricing is seen as a key element of ITS and thus of TEN-T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQpU39CyLa0

Road Tolls are also seen as a future method of financing the huge £755bn costs of TEN-T. The 2008 Eurovignette directive, which proposes charging HGVs a pollution tax for use of major roads, is currently being reviewed by the EU Council of Ministers. An agreement was recently reached that;

“As from 2011, at least 15% of the revenues generated by external costs and infrastructure charges in each Member State shall be dedicated to financially supporting TEN-T projects in order to increase transport sustainability. This percentage shall gradually increase over time.”

Although the Eurovignette system was originally designed to charge only lorries, the 2008 revision of the directive proposes that, in line with the 'polluter pays' principle, a pollution and peak hours congestion charge should be applied to cars as well. Derogations in the previous 2006 directive, allowing members to opt out of tolling vehicles below 12 tonnes have been removed.

Alarmingly, none of these proposals contravenes the Conservative party’s manifesto pledges ruling out road pricing in the current parliament and to introduce lorry charges, or the Lib Dem promise to work towards introducing road pricing in a second parliament. This consultation suggests that the DfT could be preparing the ground for the introduction of tolls on an expanded UK portion of an EU TEN-T network after the 2015 election, in line with EU directives.

The questions we should now put to Mike Penning’s DfT are;
Why has this consultation on a hugely expensive and controversial proposal been published during the parliamentary recess when MP’s are on their holidays?
Why is the consultations response time 6 instead of the usual 12 weeks?
Why have all references to road pricing been removed from the document when tolls are critical to the projects aims and funding?
The consultation closes on the 10th September and can be found here.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/DFT-2010-...

Please feel free to make your views know by submitting a response to the consultation invitation.

[Bing o]

frosted said:

So , happy you voted conservative ?

Yes, because:

1) It's upset vast swathes of socialist scum, the BBC, and some particularly right-on friends

2) I've emigrated and don't pay tax anymore

And on your topic, I co-authored a project in 2003 looking at car park charging for my work site, so it's hardly a new idea.

[Elroy Blue]

If a council trys to introduce it, then don't vote for the politicians that approved it. It's yet another slimey, stinking stealth tax. And the fact that it uses the 'green' agenda makes me even angrier!

You can bet the people that support this kind of nonsense don't work shifts, live a few miles from work and live in an area where there is 24hr, cheap public transport.

Edited by Elroy Blue on Monday 23 August 09:24

[chris watton]

Sometimes it's very easy to work out why it can be better on welfare - pretty soon, they'll be the only ones who can afford luxuries.

Mad!

[JagLover]

Elroy Blue said:

You can bet the people that support this kind of nonsense don't work shifts, live a few miles from work and live in an area where there is 24hr, cheap public transport.

Ie London

[RichB]

Pesty said:

Not only was this sothing utrd by th rlast goovernment...

You can say that again.

[Soovy]

It's local councils doing it. Local council are still stuffed to the rafters with lentilist c nts. They'll soon all be on the dole though. Good times.

[Deva Link]

I suppose many people pay to park for work already, either near work, or at stations etc, and it costs a heck of lot more than £250/yr or so.

[Elroy Blue]

Deva Link said:

I suppose many people pay to park for work already, either near work, or at stations etc, and it costs a heck of lot more than £250/yr or so.

So that makes the proposal ok??

[Deva Link]

Elroy Blue said:

Deva Link said:

I suppose many people pay to park for work already, either near work, or at stations etc, and it costs a heck of lot more than £250/yr or so.

So that makes the proposal ok??

Would you prefer a higher amount?