Dodo Supernatural. Applicator and Best Procedure?
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Hi i have recently bought some Dodo Supernatural wax as i believe is one of the top waxes on the market? I bought it believing that it will give me the depth to the shine and life between applications that i am looking for. Another reason was that i believe it has very good water sheeting propertys (i believe it is what KDS uses/has used to achieve the water sheeting in the vids on You Tube?). So my question is, now that i have the wax what is the best type of applicator to use to apply it with. I think someone mentioned a foam one? and also the best procedure to apply it with. If i have any details here wrong please feel free to correct me. Don't hold back even if i have bought completely the wrong product. Regards, Guy.
There are far more qualifies individuals on here to comment than I, however I'll have a stab.
Wax is an LSP and as such will not make you car any more shiny. It's the polishing and preparation of the paint that will give you the depth of shine, a wax will only help to protect it.
I'm therefore assuming you've done your polishing and done a pre wax clean before applying the wax. I do top up my wax coat when it's required as you can't just keep polishing, but to get the real shine requires polishing.
I've been using Dodo's Blue Velvet for the last few months and I've been very impressed with it's beading and longevity.
I apply mine with foam applicator by hand. There's many available from lot's of sources. you can apply by your fingers or machine, but I find foam apllicator works best for me.
I apply in small circular movements and all the time you are trying to apply as thin as layer as possible while working it into the paint with a very light pressure. Only reload the applicator when you can feel the pad not applying smoothly to the painted surface.
I tend to do 2 panels at a time depending on ambient temp (metallic black car) but you will soon work out how long it will take to haze.
To check whether it's ready to remove you can wipe test it with your finger. If It's still curing it will wipe and smudge, still feeling oily. If it's ready it will come away with your finger, leaving no residue, typically 15-20mins.
I use double sided MF clothes, with a shorter pile one side and a longer buffing style pile the other. Remove initially with short side and then buff to a finish.
Do not let it cure for too long on the car, otherwise it will be difficult to remove and rather than light pressure to wipe off and then buff you'll have to increase the pressure which may result in puting marks back into your now rejuvenated paint.
I like to add a further layer after an hour or so and then if possible repeat the same again 24hrs later - the 24hrs allows the wax to fully cure to the paint. Layering is the approach for wax, less is more on application and try to apply at least 2 layers. Lots of people will have differing preferences on this, but this is what works for me.
I've also started using Mother Reflections Top Coat over that and was really taken back by the results last week on mine.
Wax is an LSP and as such will not make you car any more shiny. It's the polishing and preparation of the paint that will give you the depth of shine, a wax will only help to protect it.
I'm therefore assuming you've done your polishing and done a pre wax clean before applying the wax. I do top up my wax coat when it's required as you can't just keep polishing, but to get the real shine requires polishing.
I've been using Dodo's Blue Velvet for the last few months and I've been very impressed with it's beading and longevity.
I apply mine with foam applicator by hand. There's many available from lot's of sources. you can apply by your fingers or machine, but I find foam apllicator works best for me.
I apply in small circular movements and all the time you are trying to apply as thin as layer as possible while working it into the paint with a very light pressure. Only reload the applicator when you can feel the pad not applying smoothly to the painted surface.
I tend to do 2 panels at a time depending on ambient temp (metallic black car) but you will soon work out how long it will take to haze.
To check whether it's ready to remove you can wipe test it with your finger. If It's still curing it will wipe and smudge, still feeling oily. If it's ready it will come away with your finger, leaving no residue, typically 15-20mins.
I use double sided MF clothes, with a shorter pile one side and a longer buffing style pile the other. Remove initially with short side and then buff to a finish.
Do not let it cure for too long on the car, otherwise it will be difficult to remove and rather than light pressure to wipe off and then buff you'll have to increase the pressure which may result in puting marks back into your now rejuvenated paint.
I like to add a further layer after an hour or so and then if possible repeat the same again 24hrs later - the 24hrs allows the wax to fully cure to the paint. Layering is the approach for wax, less is more on application and try to apply at least 2 layers. Lots of people will have differing preferences on this, but this is what works for me.
I've also started using Mother Reflections Top Coat over that and was really taken back by the results last week on mine.
A very good wax indeed. Application wise i find a foam applicator pad is the esaiest and most effective method. Bear in mind though that finish of your cars paint work will mostly depend on how well it has been prepped and polished prior to application. The wax will add a little something to the finish as well as more importantly providing the protection.
Hi there
The dodo juice finger aplicators are the imho the best wax aplicators I have ever used. I usaully find applying the wax following the contours of the car satisfying, but I don't believe there's a specified method that will some how make the wax aplication look better. Though use a pre wax cleaner such as lime prime or HD cleaner to improve the durability of your wax, by makin the surface a good bonding material for your wax.
The dodo juice finger aplicators are the imho the best wax aplicators I have ever used. I usaully find applying the wax following the contours of the car satisfying, but I don't believe there's a specified method that will some how make the wax aplication look better. Though use a pre wax cleaner such as lime prime or HD cleaner to improve the durability of your wax, by makin the surface a good bonding material for your wax.
Good advice from other posts, but do bear in mind that shine comes mainly from prep... the protection comes from the wax. So Lime Prime or another polish or pre-wax product would be beneficial. Foam applicators are best for wax IMO, but you can apply with bare fingers or palms (takes longer, may be more satisfying tho').
couple of points to pick up on typically wax takes upto 48 hours to fully cure so i wouldn't layer any earlier than that if you do your actually removing more of the original coat than you need to
a nice thin sponge applicator works very well for me the thick ones ie swissvax a find a little cumbersome
also wax removal - i very often leave wax overnight before buffing - i only work from my unit though so no issues with contamination during that time
paul
a nice thin sponge applicator works very well for me the thick ones ie swissvax a find a little cumbersome
also wax removal - i very often leave wax overnight before buffing - i only work from my unit though so no issues with contamination during that time
paul
Thank you very much for all your replys. Yes i will be going over the car first with a polish to try to remove any scratches and swirls i already have 2 polishes (G10 and 3M Machine polish) and will be starting a seperate thread on those to determine which one is best? I think the thin foam applicator sounds best for me, can anyone recommend me one or post a link to one on ebay etc and i'll get one ordered ASAP! Also now i have another dilemma. I read a thread on here recently about polish for black cars and was taken aback with this Auto-balm stuff at covering/filling in swirls. Well i'm never going to get every swirl out so was wondering about using this post polish/pre Supernatural wax and how long i should leave to cure between applications?
i purchased a panel pot/tester of supernatural at supercar sunday along with one of these http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/dodo-juice-supernatu... as recommended from the dodo juice stand. i havent got round to using it yet but i did observe and try applying it to their test panel by bare hand. they key to this wax i believe is to apply two very thin coats making sure you leave each coat around 40mins to cure before buffing a second buff of each coat after another hour may also be required and if possible 24hrs bewtween coats. for any more info get over detailingworld.com.
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