CMI level 7 and Chartered manager
Discussion
My employers are keen for me to do the CMI level 7 Diploma in Strategic Management and Leadership - sounds interesting but a lot of hard work to me.
Does anyone have any experience of this, or views on its' worth, or of the merits of becoming a "chartered manager" which seems like it could be one outcome?
For context, I'm not intending to change job soon, so not likely to be useful on the cv for a few years, but in about 6 years time I might be looking at developing a consultancy business.
Does anyone have any experience of this, or views on its' worth, or of the merits of becoming a "chartered manager" which seems like it could be one outcome?
For context, I'm not intending to change job soon, so not likely to be useful on the cv for a few years, but in about 6 years time I might be looking at developing a consultancy business.
MikeO996 said:
My employers are keen for me to do the CMI level 7 Diploma in Strategic Management and Leadership - sounds interesting but a lot of hard work to me.
Does anyone have any experience of this, or views on its' worth, or of the merits of becoming a "chartered manager" which seems like it could be one outcome?
For context, I'm not intending to change job soon, so not likely to be useful on the cv for a few years, but in about 6 years time I might be looking at developing a consultancy business.
Hi Mike,Does anyone have any experience of this, or views on its' worth, or of the merits of becoming a "chartered manager" which seems like it could be one outcome?
For context, I'm not intending to change job soon, so not likely to be useful on the cv for a few years, but in about 6 years time I might be looking at developing a consultancy business.
I have just completed a CMI Level 7 Diploma in Strategic Management and Leadership. Study involved one afternoon and evening at college every week for a year and an essay every month or so.
I found the course very rewarding but the assignment writing did take up most of my spare time and weekends! This was my first part time course but I have already completed a BSc and higher degree at Uni. I must say, getting home from a long day at work and trying to write essays was more of a challenge than I anticipated!
The other students on my course were really interesting, but I didn’t really like the college environment. When walking between classes I really noticed how immature most of the 16/17 year old students were, setting off fire alarms and generally fooling around, etc.
The “Chartered Manager” status is something different though – it shows that you are up to date with your knowledge as you have to complete a number of hours training every year towards your Personal Development Plan (PDP). You will also have to apply to be a Chartered Manager and a panel from the CMI will assess your ability and possibly invite you for an interview. I suppose it was created as someone could have gained qualifications many years ago and not kept up to speed with the latest trends and thinking.
When you complete the CMI Level 7 you will be eligible to become a Member of the CMI (after paying a fee ~ £100 per year). Next level up is ‘Fellow’ and the highest level is Chartered Manager.
I’m not sure how seriously employers take the Chartered Manager status – I expect it depends on which industry you work in and whether the person assessing you has any knowledge of the CMI. IMO it’s not going to be in the same league as Chartered Engineer or Chartered Accountant.
In summary, I would say go for the CMI Level 7 course but do some more research into the value of the Chartered Manager status.
Edited by FreeLitres on Tuesday 31st August 21:54
Gents
A friend told me of your discussion around Chartered Manager and suggested I read it and comment. I became a Chartered Manager a number of years ago. Like yourselves I questioned the whole process especially what was in it for me. Would it be of any benefit in terms of giving me the edge. Would it be of benefit to my business as they were paying and lookng for a return on their investment
I am not only a Chartered Manager, I am an Ambasador and Assessor for the CMI. I can be a pain when it comes to communicating what this recogniton has the ability to acheive for you and your business. As an assessor I have had the opportunity to assess the submissions of prospective CMgrs. The CMI has the most remarkable individuals who are the best managers you will get anywhere and no I am not biased, I speak from experience. The CMI is here to support its members and those who wish to acheive the ultimate acolade
Did I make the right decision, Did it give me an edge. YES I did make the correct decision and the edge is sharp. Going through the process was challenging but rewarding. The business impact was signifigant, especialy on the bottom line. The support going through the CMgr process was acceptional. On CPD the opportunity to learn via CMI is strong.
If you want to know more about what CMgr status can do for you, contact them via the web site. If you want to talk to someone CMI will be abe to get someone to speak with you.
When you make the decision to go for it, they will support you. In fact that support continues as long as you require it.
If you want to make a difference, if you want an edge and if you want recognition then Chartered Manager is the way to go.
Tom Doran CMgr Ambassador
A friend told me of your discussion around Chartered Manager and suggested I read it and comment. I became a Chartered Manager a number of years ago. Like yourselves I questioned the whole process especially what was in it for me. Would it be of any benefit in terms of giving me the edge. Would it be of benefit to my business as they were paying and lookng for a return on their investment
I am not only a Chartered Manager, I am an Ambasador and Assessor for the CMI. I can be a pain when it comes to communicating what this recogniton has the ability to acheive for you and your business. As an assessor I have had the opportunity to assess the submissions of prospective CMgrs. The CMI has the most remarkable individuals who are the best managers you will get anywhere and no I am not biased, I speak from experience. The CMI is here to support its members and those who wish to acheive the ultimate acolade
Did I make the right decision, Did it give me an edge. YES I did make the correct decision and the edge is sharp. Going through the process was challenging but rewarding. The business impact was signifigant, especialy on the bottom line. The support going through the CMgr process was acceptional. On CPD the opportunity to learn via CMI is strong.
If you want to know more about what CMgr status can do for you, contact them via the web site. If you want to talk to someone CMI will be abe to get someone to speak with you.
When you make the decision to go for it, they will support you. In fact that support continues as long as you require it.
If you want to make a difference, if you want an edge and if you want recognition then Chartered Manager is the way to go.
Tom Doran CMgr Ambassador
Thanks Tom, that's interesting and helpful - particularly in regard to longer term planning for myself.
Is what I'm being told correct, that the work done for the level 7 diploma can constitute a large part of the chartered manager application?
Is what I'm being told correct, that the work done for the level 7 diploma can constitute a large part of the chartered manager application?
Edited by MikeO996 on Wednesday 8th September 16:48
Everything you do has a bearng. Successful Chartered Management status looks at what impact YOU have had in the previous 18 months. It looks to assess you on what you have done to develop yourself up to that point and what learning has been attained. It then looks to see what you are seeking to do / acheive in the future.
In the short piece of information you have provided in this thread, my perception is this.
You are a clever and motivated person seeking to acheive excellence in whatever you do.
Having put all the effort into this, what you now need is recognition for that efort, recognition from not only within your current employment but from a Chartered Institute that is specfic to Managers.
It does not end here. I learn on an almost daily basis from assessing Charteed Manager applications. I would love to assess your application either on line or via professional discussion. If you chose to take the step, whoever you get will assist,help, steer you in the right direction and get you to your goal.
Tom Doran CMgr Ambassador ( and proud of it)
In the short piece of information you have provided in this thread, my perception is this.
You are a clever and motivated person seeking to acheive excellence in whatever you do.
Having put all the effort into this, what you now need is recognition for that efort, recognition from not only within your current employment but from a Chartered Institute that is specfic to Managers.
It does not end here. I learn on an almost daily basis from assessing Charteed Manager applications. I would love to assess your application either on line or via professional discussion. If you chose to take the step, whoever you get will assist,help, steer you in the right direction and get you to your goal.
Tom Doran CMgr Ambassador ( and proud of it)
Everything you do has a bearng. Successful Chartered Management status looks at what impact YOU have had in the previous 18 months. It looks to assess you on what you have done to develop yourself up to that point and what learning has been attained. It then looks to see what you are seeking to do / acheive in the future.
In the short piece of information you have provided in this thread, my perception is this.
You are a clever and motivated person seeking to acheive excellence in whatever you do.
Having put all the effort into this, what you now need is recognition for that efort, recognition from not only within your current employment but from a Chartered Institute that is specfic to Managers.
It does not end here. I learn on an almost daily basis from assessing Chartered Manager applications. I would love to assess your application either on line or via professional discussion. If you chose to take the step, whoever you get will assist,help, steer you in the right direction and get you to your goal.
Tom Doran CMgr Ambassador ( and proud of it)
In the short piece of information you have provided in this thread, my perception is this.
You are a clever and motivated person seeking to acheive excellence in whatever you do.
Having put all the effort into this, what you now need is recognition for that efort, recognition from not only within your current employment but from a Chartered Institute that is specfic to Managers.
It does not end here. I learn on an almost daily basis from assessing Chartered Manager applications. I would love to assess your application either on line or via professional discussion. If you chose to take the step, whoever you get will assist,help, steer you in the right direction and get you to your goal.
Tom Doran CMgr Ambassador ( and proud of it)
SVS said:
Hi Rog, what's your sense of how Chartered Management Institute membership compares to membership of the Institute for Leadership & Management (www.i-l-m.com)?
The CMI and ILM appear quite similar
Any idea about their relative value/differences?
As a Chartered Manager (and Chartered Manager Assessor) and Fellow of both the CMI and ILM (amongst others), I can commend both. The CMI and ILM appear quite similar
Any idea about their relative value/differences?The issue of which professional membership body might work best for you becomes a personal choice shaped by your requirements (both professional and personal), the stage you're at with your career and, quite frankly, affordability.
I would spend time on respective websites, determine why you think you want to be part of either organisation, and then maybe go along to a local meeting. Drop me a PM if you'd like any more assistance. HTH. Good luck!
not sure why it came out 3 times.
I have some CMI and ILM awards and certificates.
I have applied and started the Pearson BTEC Level 7 Extended Diploma
in Strategic Management & Leadership and intend to upgrade to the MBA next year.
I have also seen that I can upgrade my CMI Level 7 to be a Charted manager CMge FCMI etc.
What is the relationship between the two?
I have some CMI and ILM awards and certificates.
I have applied and started the Pearson BTEC Level 7 Extended Diploma
in Strategic Management & Leadership and intend to upgrade to the MBA next year.
I have also seen that I can upgrade my CMI Level 7 to be a Charted manager CMge FCMI etc.
What is the relationship between the two?
dsgrnmcm said:
not sure why it came out 3 times.
I have some CMI and ILM awards and certificates.
I have applied and started the Pearson BTEC Level 7 Extended Diploma
in Strategic Management & Leadership and intend to upgrade to the MBA next year.
I have also seen that I can upgrade my CMI Level 7 to be a Charted manager CMge FCMI etc.
What is the relationship between the two?
If you mean relationship between Chartered Manager (CMgr) and Fellow of the Chartered Management Institute (FCMI); CMgr is an award, with FCMI being a level of membership of the Institute. I have some CMI and ILM awards and certificates.
I have applied and started the Pearson BTEC Level 7 Extended Diploma
in Strategic Management & Leadership and intend to upgrade to the MBA next year.
I have also seen that I can upgrade my CMI Level 7 to be a Charted manager CMge FCMI etc.
What is the relationship between the two?
More here:
https://www.managers.org.uk/individuals/become-a-m...
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