Russian subs stalk Trident
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ALawson

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8,023 posts

274 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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I see the Russians are reported to be stalking Trident Vanguard submarines. I wonder how this all may play out?

Hopefully not another "accident", but this is surely quite worrying according to the telegraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politic...


The Hypno-Toad

13,126 posts

228 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Not that I'm being at all cynical but this information is released to friendly newspaper just as the Trident upgrade is under review? scratchchin

jmorgan

36,010 posts

307 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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And we are not doing the same? And they have never tried it before?

ALawson

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8,023 posts

274 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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These games have always been happening, I think the article was implying that the uprated Russian Akula class may be able to actually track it/record its sound.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

307 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Ah, me mis reading the article. Had an interesting chat with an ex sub mariner once and a collision was mentioned in enemy territory as it would have been. Unsubstantiated of course.

ALawson

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8,023 posts

274 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Submarines have always held a facination, having read a few ficitional stories and factual books I am sure a lot of collisions and other stuff happens that is never reported!

magpie215

4,922 posts

212 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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"verify our range to target.....one ping only"

FourWheelDrift

91,851 posts

307 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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"Once more, we play our dangeroush game, a game of chesh againsht our old advershary"

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

285 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Of course Nimrod would have been very handy as being able to cover and re-cover a large area.

It would have been able to pinpoint the ruski sub..........but they have been disposed of on a politicians whim.

aeropilot

39,711 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Mojocvh said:
Of course Nimrod would have been very handy as being able to cover and re-cover a large area.

It would have been able to pinpoint the ruski sub..........but they have been disposed of on a politicians whim.
Yup....... as ever, not being able to see beyond the end of their noses rolleyes

theironduke

6,995 posts

211 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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"I would liked to have seen Montana"

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

285 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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aeropilot said:
Mojocvh said:
Of course Nimrod would have been very handy as being able to cover and re-cover a large area.

It would have been able to pinpoint the ruski sub..........but they have been disposed of on a politicians whim.
Yup....... as ever, not being able to see beyond the end of their noses snouts rolleyes
EFA.


And in the meantime golden balls is planning his paternity leave...

Shedofdread

19 posts

187 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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I saw a documentary once about using a converted super - tanker to capture submarines. Maybe we should be investing in that technology....

Pvapour

8,981 posts

276 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
"Once more, we play our dangeroush game, a game of chesh againsht our old advershary"
must watch that again, not seen for yonks, tah!

rb5230

11,657 posts

195 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Shedofdread said:
I saw a documentary once about using a converted super - tanker to capture submarines. Maybe we should be investing in that technology....
rofl i think you were watching the james bond film "the spy who loved me".

jmorgan

36,010 posts

307 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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rb5230 said:
Shedofdread said:
I saw a documentary once about using a converted super - tanker to capture submarines. Maybe we should be investing in that technology....
rofl i think you were watching the james bond film "the spy who loved me".
Where is that parrot picture....

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

221 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Nothing new - been going on for years.

FOSM claims that they've never tracked and sound profiled one of our SSBNs, which is an impressive claim.

We'll tell how close to losing the V replacement we are when he comes out with the statement that they've finally tracked one hehe

Typically though the Russian boats tend to be quite noisy compared to their western equivalents, as their design philosophy was different to that in the west - favouring speed, manoeuvrability and diving depth over stealth. Also their sound attenuation tech isn't as good, nor are the crews as well trained.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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But there are no submarines in Afghanistan, I dont get it?

FourWheelDrift

91,851 posts

307 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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What's the name if the chain of subsea listening devices across the oceans the US has that can hear a Russian sailor fart underwater from 3000 miles away?

I'm sure the Soviets Russians have tried something similar.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
What's the name if the chain of subsea listening devices across the oceans the US has that can hear a Russian sailor fart underwater from 3000 miles away?

I'm sure the Soviets Russians have tried something similar.
SOSUS, think its mostly retired now because russian subs wouldnt be a problem again, though what has replaced it I dont know