Small front number plate.
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Took the cerbera out for a run today; first proper run for a few weeks. Enjoyed the blast up the M1.... until I got pulled for my front number plate being too small. I always thought that the boys in blue had relaxed the laws regarding the size of the front plate. Obviously not. I was also advised that my back one was illegal, and this one should be replaced. Why? because it didn't have the number plate makers name on it. Talk about going overboard or what. Ended up getting a fixed penalty. You wonder why
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.........I could get carried away, but I will not.


I see your car was made in 1998. The DVLA only states that plates made after 1st September 2001 should meet the BSI standard. If your rear plate was made before that the BiB got it wrong! See the site below.
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm
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www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm
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As I said if the back plate was made before 09/2001 forget it he's playing with you. As a matter of interest althought the BSI standard requires the Location of the supplier of the plate their appears to be no penalty for using Non BS plates on the DVLA web site. I love the "Local" identity idea. Works a treat My wifes car has a Newcastle plate. It won't be leaving Leeds much. Its a stupid idea as most cars move around the country and "live" away from the original registration area. Not much use for the BiB to monitor vehicle movement as it was mooted.
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The clamp down on plates is down to several things Ist the DVLA are fed up of people abusing the system and making names out of plates by misrepresenting numbers and letters 2nd with the increased use of ANPR and other such systems we need a standard format ie size, font and spacing, don't forget the primary function of the reg plate is to identify the car easily and quickly. Sorry to come across a bit on top but I personally think the British registration system is a great part of our motoring history and should remain as such, stick to the rules and that way it won't get spoiled for the others. You are quite right the Police have got better things to do with our time, its a pitty we have to waste it telling inteligent people what they already know in the first place.
The Police cannot 'Relax' laws as such. That is down to Parliament!
If your number plate looks (in character size and spacings not the exact copy of the next one you see driving down the road
) like a number plate on a Police vehicle/Ambulance/Fire engine, then you should not have any problems. Forget about dates of made before. If it looks mucked around with, it will attract a penalty!
If your number plate looks (in character size and spacings not the exact copy of the next one you see driving down the road

gone said:If the plate(s) conform to C&U regs in force at the time of manufacture (of the vehicle or the plateif it post-dates vehicle manufacture) then it is legal.
The Police cannot 'Relax' laws as such. That is down to Parliament!
If your number plate looks (in character size and spacings not the exact copy of the next one you see driving down the road) like a number plate on a Police vehicle/Ambulance/Fire engine, then you should not have any problems. Forget about dates of made before. If it looks mucked around with, it will attract a penalty!
I have a 6 digit number plate (eg 123 ABC) on the front of my Elise.
A friend made up the plates with no postcode on. I then cut down the spare space at the sides of the digits to make the plate smaller.
As far as I can understand, as long as there is 1/2" of plate surrounding the digits then its legal. And on the issue of no postcode, well, it's an old plate made before the laws came out ossifer.
A friend made up the plates with no postcode on. I then cut down the spare space at the sides of the digits to make the plate smaller.
As far as I can understand, as long as there is 1/2" of plate surrounding the digits then its legal. And on the issue of no postcode, well, it's an old plate made before the laws came out ossifer.
gone said:
The Police cannot 'Relax' laws as such. That is down to Parliament!
I appreciate that. I was told from someone in the force when I got the car, and also read on here somewhere, that its the rear plate that they are more concerned with, and that has to conform to current legistlation.
At one time, bikes used to have front plates, but now they dont, and this was used as an example.
At the end of the day, its down to the patrol car that pulled me up. I rest my case.
kojak69 said:CrAp! If this were the case, then all vehicles registered before 1 January 1973 would have to be retrofitted with reflective plates.
gone said:
The Police cannot 'Relax' laws as such. That is down to Parliament!
I appreciate that. I was told from someone in the force when I got the car, and also read on here somewhere, that its the rear plate that they are more concerned with, and that has to conform to current legistlation.
See: www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm for DVLA's current requirements - Streaky
streaky said:
CrAp! If this were the case, then all vehicles registered before 1 January 1973 would have to be retrofitted with reflective plates.
See: www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm</a></a></a> for DVLA's current requirements - Streaky
Getting back to the subject of the topic, I can see nothing here about the overall size of the plate, just the margins - unless I missed it?
Snakes
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Cazzo sorry but your facts are a bit out DVLA would price say A1 BOB at a reasonably hig price due to its obvious appeal but A113 OBB would not have even been sold but it could and probably is if it has been issued be 'cocked' up to read A1 BOBB it then usually gets sold by a reg plate dealer who invariably advertises it in its misrepresented form. Look carefully at what DVLA actually advertise, they do not show cocked uo plates, what is wrong with using your imagination anyway if you want for example 'DAVES' on your plate does it really matter if it is shown correctly as 'D4 VES' most people can figure it out
john robson said:
Cazzo sorry but your facts are a bit out.... Look carefully at what DVLA actually advertise, they do not show cocked uo plates
Did DVLA not recently auction B347 LES for an extortionate amount because it looked like Beatles?
Ok so the plate wasn't "cocked up" but surely that's asking for it?
Regarding name/place of manufacture - if it is there then it needs to be in the correct place, but you DON'T need to have one, even on new vehicles.
The name/place only needs to be on plates which are SOLD - either directly or put on cars which are sold to the public. If the cars are for fleet/business use and the plates are made in-house then there is no need.
Because only the SELLER of the plates can be prosecuted for not including them they would have to find out who made them for it to be a problem, and (AFAIK) you don't have to tell the police where they came from.
Gareth
The name/place only needs to be on plates which are SOLD - either directly or put on cars which are sold to the public. If the cars are for fleet/business use and the plates are made in-house then there is no need.
Because only the SELLER of the plates can be prosecuted for not including them they would have to find out who made them for it to be a problem, and (AFAIK) you don't have to tell the police where they came from.
Gareth
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