Rivas - are they over-priced?
Rivas - are they over-priced?
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fulham911club

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2,046 posts

265 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Am in South of France - been looking for a boat to pootle around the coast on with the kids. A riva is up for sale at a local marina : they are gorgeous (but expensive) but is there a better option?

williamp

20,116 posts

296 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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The SLX is the trim to go for. According to the Lada owners club:

"...This car sported slatted wheel trims, matt black window frames, rubber side mouldings and bumper trims...

...we measured a top speed on 87.5mph, and a 0-60 time of under 15 seconds..."

Good enough for most of us. I'd say...

Simpo Two

91,326 posts

288 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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You failed the posh test smile

Huntsman

9,095 posts

273 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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fulham911club said:
Am in South of France - been looking for a boat to pootle around the coast on with the kids. A riva is up for sale at a local marina : they are gorgeous (but expensive) but is there a better option?
Yes, they are over priced.

Look at Fairey Boats, the Spearfish Miss Daisy is very good value and for sale, and there is a nice Huntsman 28 in Holland for 120k euros that is a cheap buy.

NicoG

661 posts

231 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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williamp said:
The SLX is the trim to go for. According to the Lada owners club:

"...This car sported slatted wheel trims, matt black window frames, rubber side mouldings and bumper trims...

...we measured a top speed on 87.5mph, and a 0-60 time of under 15 seconds..."

Good enough for most of us. I'd say...
Absolutely Brilliant - Well Done !!

Todzilla

237 posts

198 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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You could always look at importing a Chris-Craft or similar from the USA - they were what inspired Carlo Riva in the first place, plus, they're a hell of a lot cheaper!
Have a look at some of these places...:

http://www.mbbw.com/
http://www.carolina-classic-boats.com/items.asp?ty...
http://www.classicboat.com/boats.htm
http://www.sierraboat.com/

if you buy a boat from one of these places can I get a ride on it as a spotters fee????

CraigW

12,248 posts

305 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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or for a more modern version which still looks a bit classic then have a look at the chris craft speedster



Edited by CraigW on Wednesday 1st September 13:56

Rower

1,381 posts

289 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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There was a very nice Chris Craft launch at Henley Regata this year , the guy who owned it was not realy up to speed on 'old technology ' though. The thing sounded awful and would not accelerate under presure it also stank seriously of Petrol and it was a very hot day. We let him come alongside ( reluctantly beacuse of the vapours )and had look at the engine a straight 6 Chrysler I think and with Carbs , we pointed out that the Chokes were out ........what is a Choke ? he said , problem solved !


Rower

CraigW

12,248 posts

305 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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ha thats a great story, what were you in out of int?

Rower

1,381 posts

289 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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CraigW said:
ha thats a great story, what were you in out of int?
A 53 ft Dutch Barge built in 1910 , it was not going to blow up but we had a lot of wine and beer chilling on board that we did not want to get hot !! We have a mooring on the Regtta course for the week of the event .

Rower

Rower

1,381 posts

289 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Huntsman said:
fulham911club said:
Am in South of France - been looking for a boat to pootle around the coast on with the kids. A riva is up for sale at a local marina : they are gorgeous (but expensive) but is there a better option?
Yes, they are over priced.

Look at Fairey Boats, the Spearfish Miss Daisy is very good value and for sale, and there is a nice Huntsman 28 in Holland for 120k euros that is a cheap buy.
Saw a very nice Swordsman moored up in Dartmouth last week , first one I have seen , do they have the same engines as the Huntsman , the boat is obviously a lot bigger ? Also saw a Huntsman at Salcombe ( I think although could have been Fowey ) it was moving away and I did not get the name.

Rower

audidoody

8,598 posts

279 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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The picture above is not a Speedster. It's the bigger 25ft Launch. The Speedster is 19ft.

I've got a 2005 Chris Craft Speedster moored in the SoF (Port Grimaud). Squint and you can pretend it's a RIva Aquarama (same curved windscreen). It is a fantastic little boat in design, performance, and quality of construction. But I wouldn't buy it for the SoF again. The Speedster really excels at being a trailored inland lake speed boat for water skiing, wake boarding etc and is brilliant when the water is flat and calm. I've had it up to 55mph in mill pond conditions when it gets on the plane within a couple of seconds.

But you have to get up early in the morning in the SoF for those conditions. Most of the time the water is chopped up by both the wind and the gin palaces that churn up the water from their wake. The Speedster is just a little too short for the wave lengths trough to peak. You have to slow down considerably. Also, it has an inboard/outboard stern drive so is more expensive to maintain than an outboard. I'd recommend a 20'foot RIB (outboard engine) which would be cheaper to run and maintain. No scratches or dings when the idiot mooring next to you forgets to put his fenders out. The Speedster is about €3,000 a year for winterisation, storage, and servicing.

IMHO RIvas are not over-priced. Like Ferrari they cater for a niche market and hold their value. But a classic Riva Aquarama will be ruinous to buy and run. One scratch on that varnished wood hull and your holiday (and children's inheritance) will be ruined! The hull is laminated and If the boat hasn't been perfectly serviced and maintained the laminations can come apart.







Edited by audidoody on Monday 6th September 18:53

CraigW

12,248 posts

305 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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ah apologies, my mistake, i took that pic from google images. Interestingly audiodoody I was in pg this weekend, if you ever want to sell it I know someone who may be looking for a chris craft down there, nice boats, lovely place.

Huntsman

9,095 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Rower said:
Saw a very nice Swordsman moored up in Dartmouth last week , first one I have seen , do they have the same engines as the Huntsman , the boat is obviously a lot bigger ? Also saw a Huntsman at Salcombe ( I think although could have been Fowey ) it was moving away and I did not get the name.

Rower
The Swordsman in Dartmouth is probably Dr Syn, nice boat, nice owners.

Some very underpowered Swordsman do have the 145 Perkins that was fitted in most of Huntsman, its a mixed bag now, some Perkins, lots of fords, a few yanmars and even the odd green one!


audidoody

8,598 posts

279 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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CraigW said:
ah apologies, my mistake, i took that pic from google images. Interestingly audiodoody I was in pg this weekend, if you ever want to sell it I know someone who may be looking for a chris craft down there, nice boats, lovely place.
I'm half and half about selling. I love the boat to bits when we're out on it. But - it only gets used about 20 days a year!

PM me and I'll give you details on how your friend can sea trial it!


Dupont666

22,524 posts

215 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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audidoody said:
I'm half and half about selling. I love the boat to bits when we're out on it. But - it only gets used about 20 days a year!
I sold mine 2 years ago for that very reason! Thousands of £££££s to keep her in the marina doing nothing just does not compute!!!

louiebaby

10,879 posts

214 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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We stumbled upon a classic boat show on Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire over the summer. I'd never seen a Chris Craft boat before, and I fell in love.

One day, I will have one.

aeropilot

39,711 posts

250 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Dupont666 said:
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audidoody

8,598 posts

279 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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garyhun said:
audidoody said:
I'm half and half about selling. I love the boat to bits when we're out on it. But - it only gets used about 20 days a year!
I sold mine 2 years ago for that very reason! Thousands of £££££s to keep her in the marina doing nothing just does not compute!!!
I know. I know. When you crunch the numbers in the cold light of a British winter it's stupid.

But when you're out there on the water having a blast in the summer your head is filled with thoughts such as "life's too short not to". and "well you can't take it with you", and "what else would I spend it on?".