Mondeo ST TDCI
Discussion
I've been reading up on these engines as I'm thinking about one to replace my daily (probably the Titanium/Ghia in X guise as they have the same kit but lower price than the ST) and haven't found many bad words said about their reliability.
Never tend to see Mondeos broken down at the side of the road either.
Is the reliability comment from personal experience?
34 mpg on a motorway run is a lot less than the high 40s the diesel will probably get. Would have to be doing a lot of spirited B-road driving to tempt me away from that ecomony personally.
Never tend to see Mondeos broken down at the side of the road either.
Is the reliability comment from personal experience?
34 mpg on a motorway run is a lot less than the high 40s the diesel will probably get. Would have to be doing a lot of spirited B-road driving to tempt me away from that ecomony personally.
Dave_ST220 said:
Paul_Dids said:
I'd assumed the 2.2 would be the same... am I wrong??
IMO, yes.I also thought the 2.2 would be a very similar engine to the 2.0, just a bit more power/capacity.
I'd certainly consider a Octy VRS as an alternative, if I could find one!!
Sorry for jumping in on your thread here....
The 2.2 is an older design, and is another PSA engine. There's LOTS of people have problems with the 2.2 - check any Ford forum, or any of the review sites and you'll find the complaints. Injectors you're looking at close to a grand to get them fitted and coded to the ECU (similar technology to Land-Rover's TD5). £600 at least for flywheel (subframe has to come out to drop the engine on all Mk3 Mondeos for flywheel or clutch).
Cost me £360 'mates rates' for a clutch alone last month on my petrol Mk3 - if the flywheel was going to need doing it'd be close to £750 for the job.
Cost me £360 'mates rates' for a clutch alone last month on my petrol Mk3 - if the flywheel was going to need doing it'd be close to £750 for the job.
Mannginger said:
Octavia VRS as an alternative?
This is top of my list for potential next car. I have had two Fiats recently, so would hope the reliability and interiors would be an improvement, not to mention it is basically a Golf GTi in drag...My only issue is it is a big car for one person to be in 90% of the time.
I had one and it was a great car 56 plate in Blue, did 76000 miles with one fault which was the control valve for the turbo kept sticking, had to turn engine off and on to get it working again, common fault, £10 part from Ford. I loved mine only changed as was company car, Also check heated seats still work as they can go. Take one for a drive you will be suprised. 155 is more than ample for the car.
I have got a mark 4 2.2TDCI 09 plate although they dont call it the ST they just call it the sport 180bhp can pick up a 08/58 plate for about 10k if your budget can stretch that far and the problems with the mark 3 flywheel have been fixed although I did find it went through the front tyres quickly (16K miles) but I was a bit heavy on the gas
Edited by Iang84 on Wednesday 1st September 20:58
Jonty355 said:
I love my ST TDCI
I can get 60mpg on the motorway, and its a real blast on the A and B roads!
Plus its does everything and more I could possibly want from a car!
Plus 1I can get 60mpg on the motorway, and its a real blast on the A and B roads!
Plus its does everything and more I could possibly want from a car!
I had mine for 90k and just shy of 4 years.
Suffered 2 EGR valves, but that was it on the problem front.
Had a fair bit of torque, and drives better than a diesel repmobile should.
Dimski said:
Jonty355 said:
I love my ST TDCI
I can get 60mpg on the motorway, and its a real blast on the A and B roads!
Plus its does everything and more I could possibly want from a car!
Plus 1I can get 60mpg on the motorway, and its a real blast on the A and B roads!
Plus its does everything and more I could possibly want from a car!
I had mine for 90k and just shy of 4 years.
Suffered 2 EGR valves, but that was it on the problem front.
Had a fair bit of torque, and drives better than a diesel repmobile should.
There have been a few threads on these over the past 6-12 months - so have a search via google as you'll find lots of good advice.
I owned one from Christmas 2007 through to Christmas 2008. I managed over 25,000 miles in those 12 months and averaged 43.5mpg over the duration. It visited the track five or six times, took me on numerous trips to Wales and the rest of the time commuted me up and down the motorway between Birmingham and Uni (in Cheltenham). Sitting at 55mph it was economical but start pressing on, or drive around town for too long and the economy really dips.
Mine was actually quite reliable, although the 2.2 engine does have its problems. If you click on my profile you will see all the costs associated with running it for 12 months. I got through tyres quite quickly - fronts only lasted 13k (and they are expensive being 18s) - but it is a heavy FWD hatchback so I suppose it can be forgiven for that.
Problems wise; they have issues with EGR valves failing, Injectors failing (most expensive issue) as well as Dual Mass Flywheel problems (not experienced this and I'm unsure of the cost involved in repairing), amongst a few other niggles. The wheels will corrode so don't worry about that - it's because they are diamond cut.
The driving position is also a bit odd because the steering wheel is not in the centre of the seat. This isn't something I noticed when I first bought it but over time it became quite annoying - and exacerbated my bad back!
Overall, I'm afraid I wouldn't buy another ST TDCi, BUT I would happily but a 220, I just think the V6 engine really "belongs" in the car. Here's a gratuitious photo of my car, on track back in 2008:
I owned one from Christmas 2007 through to Christmas 2008. I managed over 25,000 miles in those 12 months and averaged 43.5mpg over the duration. It visited the track five or six times, took me on numerous trips to Wales and the rest of the time commuted me up and down the motorway between Birmingham and Uni (in Cheltenham). Sitting at 55mph it was economical but start pressing on, or drive around town for too long and the economy really dips.
Mine was actually quite reliable, although the 2.2 engine does have its problems. If you click on my profile you will see all the costs associated with running it for 12 months. I got through tyres quite quickly - fronts only lasted 13k (and they are expensive being 18s) - but it is a heavy FWD hatchback so I suppose it can be forgiven for that.
Problems wise; they have issues with EGR valves failing, Injectors failing (most expensive issue) as well as Dual Mass Flywheel problems (not experienced this and I'm unsure of the cost involved in repairing), amongst a few other niggles. The wheels will corrode so don't worry about that - it's because they are diamond cut.
The driving position is also a bit odd because the steering wheel is not in the centre of the seat. This isn't something I noticed when I first bought it but over time it became quite annoying - and exacerbated my bad back!
Overall, I'm afraid I wouldn't buy another ST TDCi, BUT I would happily but a 220, I just think the V6 engine really "belongs" in the car. Here's a gratuitious photo of my car, on track back in 2008:
Edited by rfn on Wednesday 1st September 23:44
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