Golf/Corrado VR6
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stumpy67

Original Poster:

190 posts

198 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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What are these like as a Track Slag - they're damn cheap to buy now.

An understeery monster? Too heavy if stripped out?

chisteve

26 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I had a golf vr6 not used on track, very good in a straight line not so good round corners.

Very heavy.

I expect if you through some money at it for firmer suspension etc might make it better

Steve

weed

211 posts

265 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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The Corrado should be better.
It has a lower center of gravity. In US guises, the Corrado has higher rate springs.
I owned both at the same time in the middle to late 90's.
The Corrado was put together better than the Golf and was more competent in all areas except the shopping bag count.
The driving feel of the Golf was that of a sloppy front drive sedan.
The Corrado was more competent, sort of like an E36 M3 but minus the rear drive dynamics and sharp pointable steering.

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mmm-five

12,160 posts

308 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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My Corrado VR6 had about 6 years of track use and didn't miss a beat - although I did spend a fair bit on power (all naturally-aspirated to 240bhp and 245lb/ft), suspension & braking mods to make it more track-focussed - and it was as fast as the supercharged ones around at the time with their alleged 260-300bhp.



If I was doing it again as a track slag then I'd rip out the leather interior and put some lightweight buckets in.

Edited by mmm-five on Thursday 2nd September 21:37

iguana

7,316 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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If gay wheel drive is your bag, Golf VR6 works suprisingly well as a track slag, obviously needs stripping & caging & stock suspension needs to be binned as its utter utter rubbish & the stock gear ratios are not ideal, far too long but all easily & not to expensively sorted.

If you can pedal properly it will suprise a lot of stuff.

Last Friday- I'm in the 924S in front trying my best, but Ian & his vR6 power was just too much for my tiddly 160bhp.

Caged, suspensioned, LSD, Lower final drive etc etc

http://vimeo.com/14531260

Build thread of that car here- you may wat to skim read its over 50 pages! smile

http://z8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/index.php?sho...


Chris71

21,548 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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mmm-five said:
That car looks exceptionally poised - you know how some just look right when cornering?

iguana said:
I presume that's your Porsche in front and the film was taken from the Corrado. The Corrado that breezed rather comfortably past the Elise...

This thread is very dangerous - a Corrado and another front engined Porsche both fall pretty high up my 'to buy' list.

JonRB

79,505 posts

296 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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The Golf VR6 and Corrado VR6 are very different beasties.

The Golf has less power, is heavier, has a higher centre of gravity, and much more wallowy suspension in stock form - although with the age of these cars you'd expect them to be on uprated suspension by now.

Certainly a well sorted Corrado will surprise on track. My (admittedly very modified) Corrado VR6 will happily keep up with Elises on track - although I do have 2-way adjustable coilover suspension and run Toyo R888 tyres on track.

An oil cooler is a must, I'd say, as the engine can get a bit toasty on track.



Edited by JonRB on Friday 3rd September 09:44

iguana

7,316 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Chris71 said:
I presume that's your Porsche in front and the film was taken from the Corrado. The Corrado that breezed rather comfortably past the Elise...

This thread is very dangerous - a Corrado and another front engined Porsche both fall pretty high up my 'to buy' list.
Yip but click the link, Golf not Corrado.




stumpy67

Original Poster:

190 posts

198 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Cheers all good stuff.
Can't follow the link on the build though as I'm not a member of that forum...

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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The GOlf VR6 is a terrible, terrible trackday car in its standard format.
THe weight and understeer is so brutal that its power and speed are rendered irrelevant.
I did a day at Brands Hatch in mine, and I was pissed all over by pretty much everything except an 80 year old man in his Jaguar.
Although admittedly IM a bit st, the corenering is so bad that I don't think a good driver could do much better.
Still enjoyed the day at the time, but if I was offered a free trackday in one now, I'd probably decline.

Scho

2,479 posts

227 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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My mate has a completely boned Mk3 VR6 on bilsteins, 6 branch manifold and supersprint.

Not been out on track with him in it but we have had a rather spirited drive around the evo triangle and i can tell you it is no slouch.

Since the mk3's are cheaper and parts more readily available surely a cheap non sunroof mk3 wold make more sense, Save the £ for prep?




Edited by Scho on Friday 10th September 15:31

sonny.j.h

91 posts

225 months

Saturday 11th September 2010
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Just track the RS4 Stumps wink

On a side note, I think the clio would be a good option too.

Edited by sonny.j.h on Saturday 11th September 17:20

stumpy67

Original Poster:

190 posts

198 months

Saturday 11th September 2010
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Certainly gonna track it while I still have it - gotta get some use out of the Pole Position bucket seats!

Fortunately they'll fit in any car with the right subframe.

Can't make my mind up between a Clio 197, a Megane 225, or possibly a Mini Cooper S, for track use...

The Meg will give better tuning potential?

sonny.j.h

91 posts

225 months

Saturday 11th September 2010
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Funny you should say that I was looking at cheap Mini S as a track project too. I think the Clio will be better tbh. I was impressed at the Ring last month with the RSR one.