That 7 litre Sag........
That 7 litre Sag........
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broadside

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856 posts

311 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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After watching the LS7 Sag perform at BNG along the prom yesterday. I can only wish that this was the car TVR should have produced or at least offered.

It is one hell of a car, it sounds purposeful without being brash and yet can lay a huge pair of 11's down the road and vanish at warp speed. The figures from yesterday....quarter mile in 11.77 and terminal speed of 127MPH. I'm sure it would have been quicker if the prom surface was tarmac rather than concrete.

The car is a credit to it's owner and his eye for detail and meticulous preparation by Topcats Racing who did the conversion.

Reading about the car in Sprint was a damn good read, but seeing the car strut it's stuff so effortlessly yesterday put it all into perspective.

I want that car!!!!


dbv8

8,676 posts

249 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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That start surface was fairly poor and the 64 foot times could have been at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker on a decent surface. That Sag could run into the 10's at a drag strip.

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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dbv8 said:
That start surface was fairly poor and the 64 foot times could have been at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker on a decent surface. That Sag could run into the 10's at a drag strip.
For sure it would low 10s at that, good on you Paul


Dom

dbv8

8,676 posts

249 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Tvr Power said:
dbv8 said:
That start surface was fairly poor and the 64 foot times could have been at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker on a decent surface. That Sag could run into the 10's at a drag strip.
For sure it would low 10s at that, good on you Paul


Dom
Now now lets not get carried away.
Do you know the cars weight and bhp please?
I reckon about 10.8 @ 135 would be on the cards

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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1060 KG's

I run it at a minimum of 550BHP - this depends on how it is mapped. Full BHP figures will be in a magazine coming to you soon - until then we are keeping bhp to ourselves so the old map screen print will not help.

It will run 10's easy there is no doubt in my mind.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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dbv8 said:
That start surface was fairly poor and the 64 foot times could have been at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker on a decent surface. That Sag could run into the 10's at a drag strip.
not just the first 64 ft that was a slippy surface!

It felt like driving on marbles for the first half of the course

RichardD

3,608 posts

274 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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blackiepaul said:
1060 KG's

I run it at a minimum of 550BHP - this depends on how it is mapped. ....
Is this on all standard internals (i.e. standard cam) ?

dbv8

8,676 posts

249 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 550
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1060
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 527.20
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.21
0 - 100 (Secs) : 6.66
60 - 100 (Secs) : 3.44
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.26
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 130.08
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.16
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 131.56

10's are very hard to achieve in a road car, ask Brummmie.

Map to get another 59bhp....

Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 609
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1060
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 583.75
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.10
0 - 100 (Secs) : 6.23
60 - 100 (Secs) : 3.12
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.09
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 133.56
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 10.99
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 135.08




Brummmie

5,284 posts

250 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Pretty smokey!!

10's are almost impossible on road tyres and two wheel drive, my best 11.19/129.9 on treble 888's was with a 1.88 60ft. Drag radials should see a 60ft closer to 1.5, but something might SNAP!! smile as i have found out..

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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dbv8 said:
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 550
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1060
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 527.20
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.21
0 - 100 (Secs) : 6.66
60 - 100 (Secs) : 3.44
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.26
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 130.08
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.16
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 131.56

10's are very hard to achieve in a road car, ask Brummmie.

Map to get another 59bhp....

Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 609
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1060
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 583.75
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.10
0 - 100 (Secs) : 6.23
60 - 100 (Secs) : 3.12
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.09
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 133.56
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 10.99
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 135.08
Bang Nitrous up its ass, set of slicks sticky track job done smile

Dom

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Brummmie said:
Pretty smokey!!

10's are almost impossible on road tyres and two wheel drive, my best 11.19/129.9 on treble 888's was with a 1.88 60ft. Drag radials should see a 60ft closer to 1.5, but something might SNAP!! smile as i have found out..
Brummmie lad are you loosing it, excuses excuses, NOTHING is impossible in dragracing smile

Dom

dbv8

8,676 posts

249 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Tvr Power said:
Bang Nitrous up its ass, set of slicks sticky track job done smile

Dom
Well said!
you would only need a 50 shot to give the required hike in torque.
I wouldnt go slicks on the drag strip tho... too much grip is a bad thing.
A pair of Mickey Thompson Street ETs would make all the difference

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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blackiepaul said:
1060 KG's

I run it at a minimum of 550BHP - this depends on how it is mapped. Full BHP figures will be in a magazine coming to you soon - until then we are keeping bhp to ourselves so the old map screen print will not help.

It will run 10's easy there is no doubt in my mind.
Brummmie and Saggy should have a dragrace ill pay both entries smile


Dom

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Brummmie said:
Pretty smokey!!

10's are almost impossible on road tyres and two wheel drive, my best 11.19/129.9 on treble 888's was with a 1.88 60ft. Drag radials should see a 60ft closer to 1.5, but something might SNAP!! smile as i have found out..
Chicken smile

Dom

dbv8

8,676 posts

249 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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I guess the big race is on.

Who will be the first street legal TVR to hit a 10?

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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dbv8 said:
I guess the big race is on.

Who will be the first street legal TVR to hit a 10?
i think Brummmie will hit those numbers

Dom

Brummmie

5,284 posts

250 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Tvr Power said:
blackiepaul said:
1060 KG's

I run it at a minimum of 550BHP - this depends on how it is mapped. Full BHP figures will be in a magazine coming to you soon - until then we are keeping bhp to ourselves so the old map screen print will not help.

It will run 10's easy there is no doubt in my mind.
Brummmie and Saggy should have a dragrace ill pay both entries smile


Dom
Your on!

Street legal rubber?

PS..i said almost!

Edited by Brummmie on Monday 6th September 13:09

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Nice calculation but with that it would mean I would only make 5 tenths from a proper surface which can not be right?

As John said it was slippy for at least half of the course and very bumpy. I was wheel spinning past 100MPH and the calc also does not take into account torque or does this not matter?

I will post a vid from the car at some stage - I must have travelled a fair distance sideways.






dbv8 said:
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 550
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1060
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 527.20
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.21
0 - 100 (Secs) : 6.66
60 - 100 (Secs) : 3.44
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.26
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 130.08
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.16
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 131.56

10's are very hard to achieve in a road car, ask Brummmie.

Map to get another 59bhp....

Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 609
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1060
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 583.75
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.10
0 - 100 (Secs) : 6.23
60 - 100 (Secs) : 3.12
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.09
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 133.56
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 10.99
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 135.08

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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dbv8 said:
Tvr Power said:
Bang Nitrous up its ass, set of slicks sticky track job done smile

Dom
Well said!

you would only need a 50 shot to give the required hike in torque.
I wouldnt go slicks on the drag strip tho... too much grip is a bad thing.
A pair of Mickey Thompson Street ETs would make all the
difference
This was a sprint organised by the MSA, your car would have struggled yesterday and probaby just managed to see high 12s as a guess.

Tvr Power

1,076 posts

235 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Brummmie said:
Tvr Power said:
blackiepaul said:
1060 KG's

I run it at a minimum of 550BHP - this depends on how it is mapped. Full BHP figures will be in a magazine coming to you soon - until then we are keeping bhp to ourselves so the old map screen print will not help.

It will run 10's easy there is no doubt in my mind.
Brummmie and Saggy should have a dragrace ill pay both entries smile


Dom
Your on!

Street legal rubber?
Wicked lets get her back on the rolling road


Dom