HP2 Enduro, how much money to part with.
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Having finally found one for sale in the UK, the question of what to pay for it has become a reality.
Parker's is saying around 7k private, but given they only sold about 40 in the UK and most are holed up as collectors, how's that in anyway acurate?
they were 12k ish in 05 when they launched. Bike has 10K miles on it, a few bits of the right bling, missing the original cans and no road wheels (at 12k it came with two sets of rims), the seller wants 9K for it.
Too much thinks I, but based on nothing more than being from up North and having had the short arm deep pocket modification done to bring me in line with local custom.
Parker's is saying around 7k private, but given they only sold about 40 in the UK and most are holed up as collectors, how's that in anyway acurate?
they were 12k ish in 05 when they launched. Bike has 10K miles on it, a few bits of the right bling, missing the original cans and no road wheels (at 12k it came with two sets of rims), the seller wants 9K for it.
Too much thinks I, but based on nothing more than being from up North and having had the short arm deep pocket modification done to bring me in line with local custom.
Graemsay said:
Don't know if it's any help, but the recently discontinued HP2 Megamoto has a list price of around 13K to 14K. Whether you could get a deal on top of that is a different matter...
Very different animal really. I even looked at trying to convert a GS or a Mega moto into a hybrid Enduro.....don't go there!cheers though.
they don't come up very often, I think most people expect a fair price those that don't get dissapointed (either way), I don't really want to piss anyone off with a s
te offer....although why anyone would get pissed off with this is beyond me, but it happens.
I REALLY don't know what they are worth, so where to go with an offer?
uninspired of lancashire.
te offer....although why anyone would get pissed off with this is beyond me, but it happens.I REALLY don't know what they are worth, so where to go with an offer?
uninspired of lancashire.
How much are the road wheels and cans?. If you can find those for sale, knock the cost of them off his £9K price and open with an offer £500 less than that.
To be fair, the bike isn't "complete" and a limited production bike like that should be, so he can't get too offended at lower offers. If he hasn't put "no offers" in the ad then he should have if he is that sensitive.
To be fair, the bike isn't "complete" and a limited production bike like that should be, so he can't get too offended at lower offers. If he hasn't put "no offers" in the ad then he should have if he is that sensitive.
First HP2Es' didnt come with supermoto wheels. BMW offered them at a reduced price when they were included later- possibly due to the number of bikes sitting in showrooms.
These bikes are very rare and possibly too race focused are you sure you want one. 7k is an absolute bargain IMO and good one fetchs 10k on the continent. If you want a set of sm wheels I know of a set for sale.
These bikes are very rare and possibly too race focused are you sure you want one. 7k is an absolute bargain IMO and good one fetchs 10k on the continent. If you want a set of sm wheels I know of a set for sale.
oh, I'm sure I want one alright.
Most I've seen had two sets of rims with.
The one in Belfast has (I assume) been sold over weekend as the guy didn't call me on Monday to say he stil had it.
I've yet to get to Cheshire to see the other one (assuming he's still got that).
Given its gonna cost me circa 2K to get some spoked wheels and TKC's tyres for the GS, The HP is looking very appealing.
Most I've seen had two sets of rims with.
The one in Belfast has (I assume) been sold over weekend as the guy didn't call me on Monday to say he stil had it.
I've yet to get to Cheshire to see the other one (assuming he's still got that).
Given its gonna cost me circa 2K to get some spoked wheels and TKC's tyres for the GS, The HP is looking very appealing.
HP2e's are like rockinghorse pooh and getting rarer. In Germany they can sell at a premium price, anything up to 14,000 euros.
Most UK HP2e's go to Europe and so push the price higher than one would want.
Others are right, early ones had only the Enduro wheels; later ones had both as a gimmick to sell the bike.
However, a lot of folks sold their road wheels to fund the bike and come in quite expensive, even now as a secondhand item. Others sold the road wheels due to the handling as the bike was built around off road racing.
I am sure you know what to look for, but the key ones are front forks [need rebuilding frequently even if only used on the road, design fault]; the air shock is prone to failure [cross fingers my one hasn't]; batteries are poor; rear subframe doesn't carry much weight. Every part is expensive and it is crap at slow speed technical work. For me the seat height is an interesting obstacle
Other than that, it is the bestest bike in the world. Heaps of fun on the road [esp with TKCs on] and off the road [particularly fire tracks]
There are cheap examples out there and that is for a reason. Watch for ex off road school examples, these can be good and bad.
You pays your money and takes your chances, but there aren't many and they sell quickly
Most UK HP2e's go to Europe and so push the price higher than one would want.
Others are right, early ones had only the Enduro wheels; later ones had both as a gimmick to sell the bike.
However, a lot of folks sold their road wheels to fund the bike and come in quite expensive, even now as a secondhand item. Others sold the road wheels due to the handling as the bike was built around off road racing.
I am sure you know what to look for, but the key ones are front forks [need rebuilding frequently even if only used on the road, design fault]; the air shock is prone to failure [cross fingers my one hasn't]; batteries are poor; rear subframe doesn't carry much weight. Every part is expensive and it is crap at slow speed technical work. For me the seat height is an interesting obstacle
Other than that, it is the bestest bike in the world. Heaps of fun on the road [esp with TKCs on] and off the road [particularly fire tracks]
There are cheap examples out there and that is for a reason. Watch for ex off road school examples, these can be good and bad.
You pays your money and takes your chances, but there aren't many and they sell quickly
To add these two sites may help and you may be lucky:
http://hp2enduro.com/
http://ukgser.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=144 [if this doesn't work try the site and look for the HP2 forum]
To add: A lot of folk tend not to advertise the bikes; it is as well to post a wanted ad and see what happens. I had a choice of 3 by this means
Hope this helps
http://hp2enduro.com/
http://ukgser.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=144 [if this doesn't work try the site and look for the HP2 forum]
To add: A lot of folk tend not to advertise the bikes; it is as well to post a wanted ad and see what happens. I had a choice of 3 by this means
Hope this helps
stripy7 said:
Sidestand switch needs lots WD40 in the wet which can be a PITA. I actually find low speed manoevres easy, all the weight is low down. If you have a GS already you will be amazed at how much lighter the HP2 is.
HiThere is a replacement steel bracket for the sidestand switch as the std one is made of butter; most wire it out
Yes your right on weight, and yes I am very lucky to have both to test. The fueling at low speeds mean that you need alot of clutch to keep it steady, may try a power commander to help in the future; against other off roaders [mainly KTM with carbs] the HP2e is a lot harder to do slow off road moves, but I didn't buy it for that so I am happy
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