13th F1 team for 2011 - FIA reject all entries!

[ajprice]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

Poor old Jacques, well at least he can go back to his other career now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jYi4MNDOl4

[patmahe]

For a guy who was such an obvious talent when he arrived in F1, he really did throw his career away with BAR and Pollock. Sad really as it probably deprived us of some great racing.

[FourWheelDrift]

At least they have a car, Villeneuve testing the JV211 earlier.

[patmahe]

FourWheelDrift said:

At least they have a car, Villeneuve testing the JV211 earlier.

Still further than USF1 got

[ajprice]

Whoever designed that, HRT want them next year.

[anonymous-user]

Probably a good thing. They probably don't want another HRT on the grid next year.

[Aydogflipper]

As above really, dont want lots of uncompetative (sp) cars at the back making it difficult for the front runners to lap them

[egomeister]

Aydogflipper said:

As above really, dont want lots of uncompetative (sp) cars at the back making it difficult for the front runners to lap them

The FIA might have tried to make a decision earlier to give the potential new team a decent stab at getting a car together then...

Epsilon Euskadi have far better facilities than any of the teams that were accepted for this year, yet again they miss out on an entry. Makes you wonder what the selection criteria actually are!

[anonymous-user]

Aydogflipper said:

As above really, dont want lots of uncompetative (sp) cars at the back making it difficult for the front runners to lap them

It's not that really. The HRT car was lapping slower at Monaco than B.Senna's GP2 car from the previous year. Makes a bit of a joke of F1. Not sure if it's still slower around tracks than that car now though.

[anonymous-user]

egomeister said:

Aydogflipper said:

As above really, dont want lots of uncompetative (sp) cars at the back making it difficult for the front runners to lap them

The FIA might have tried to make a decision earlier to give the potential new team a decent stab at getting a car together then...

Epsilon Euskadi have far better facilities than any of the teams that were accepted for this year, yet again they miss out on an entry. Makes you wonder what the selection criteria actually are!

I read somewhere that all the new teams that came into the 2010 season had to use Cosworth engines. Teams were turned away that wanted to use other engines apparently. I wonder if that's happened again.

[patmahe]

Aydogflipper said:

As above really, dont want lots of uncompetative (sp) cars at the back making it difficult for the front runners to lap them

To be fair to the new teams, they do a pretty good job of diving out of the way when being lapped. The Webber/Kovi incident being the obvious exception, though you could quite easily argue it was as much Webbers fault.

[FourWheelDrift]

And apart from a couple of early races they all within the 107% limit of pole position qualifying time.

[Mazda Baiter]

MSTRBKR said:

egomeister said:

Aydogflipper said:

As above really, dont want lots of uncompetative (sp) cars at the back making it difficult for the front runners to lap them

The FIA might have tried to make a decision earlier to give the potential new team a decent stab at getting a car together then...

Epsilon Euskadi have far better facilities than any of the teams that were accepted for this year, yet again they miss out on an entry. Makes you wonder what the selection criteria actually are!

I read somewhere that all the new teams that came into the 2010 season had to use Cosworth engines. Teams were turned away that wanted to use other engines apparently. I wonder if that's happened again.

Especially as Lotus want Renault engines next year.

[Fire99]

There have been 'uncompetitive' teams in F1 (well in comparison to the front runners) for donkeys.
At the end of the day, if after a couple of races or so, they're within the 107% rule then what's the issue?

I'd rather a grid of mixed performance (within reason) than a sparse grid of front-runners.

[ThreeWheeling]

I wonder how many of USF1/Virgin/HRT/Lotus would have been chosen if the 2011 criteria had been used? Or for that matter, would other teams have been chosen in the first place?

I feel sorry for Epsilon. They had the funding last year but because the FIA messed them around that funding wouldn't commit until the FIA chose the team and the FIA wouldn't choose the team until funding committed.